Help - Jubilee Oil Drain Plug Stuck

[twtrout]

Help,
I am trying to get the oil drain plug out on my '53 Ford Jubilee and I can't get it to budge! I have a new replacement to go back in its place so I can see that I am trying to turn it the correct direction. The square plug has been rounded off by somebody before me and I can't get a good grip on it to turn it with a cheater bar even. The tractor sat for a couple years unused in a shed and runs just fine. The oil in the pan doesn't look that bad and the filter wasn't that nasty. It makes me wonder if they changed the oil by dropping the oil pan or by pumping out through the dipstick hole. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to loosen the drain plug? I am trying to turn it now by using a hammer and chisel. Here is a picture of what it looks like if you don't know:

http://www.ytmag.com/store/parts/pics/wm_9N6730WG.jpg

As you can see the screen makes for a big plug with lots of treaded area. That's probably why it's being so stubborn to turn. Any and all suggestions are welcome and as Tom Sawyer with the white washed fence, I solicit any and all help.

Thanks,
Billy

 

[RickB]

Hammer and chisel is usually effective; be careful not to damage the oilpan. A 24" pipewrench should open far enough to grip the extreme O.D of the plug. Good luck, those things can be nasty.

 

[Soundguy]

get a file and file the rounde dplug a lil flat on 2 sides so yer pip wrench can grip better... in bad cases you can weld a large hex nut to the plg and then use a proper wrench to turn it out.. the heat fromt he welding helps.

usually they get stuck because people are to cheap to cut a new gasket out of cardboard or gasket paper.. or buy the correct 50 cent gasket.. and instead torque it to some inhuman value so it won't leak.

get a small jack and piece of wood.. put it under the pan anf jack up so the wood supports your pipe wrench so it stays on good.. then it should spin out.. remember.. lefty loosey.. but she is upside down..

if that fails.. then the chissle method is usually bullet proof.. but usually ruins the plug ( yours needs repalcing anyway.. ).. and if you aren't carefull.. can mar the mating surface of the pan.. us ethe chissle and dig it intot he flange and tap it around... post back if the pipe wrench won't get it after you file or grind on it a bit to make some flat areas.

soundguy

 

[Egon]

Pipe wrench.

 

[Thomas]

Can you square the end enough to tap on old socket than maybe cheater pipe on rachet slowly turn.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

If you're really handy with a welder, attach a hex nut on the plug where you have a new point to put a wrench.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Chris (Soundguy) hit upon my favorite method........If you're really handy with a welder, attach a hex nut on the plug where you have a new point to put a wrench.

 

[twtrout]

I didn't mention earlier that I tried a big pair of vise grips but just couldn't get the leverage I needed. I have soaked it down a couple times with PB Blaster and I will let it sit overnight before I try anything further. I am going to stop by tomorrow on my way home from work and get a 24" pipe wrench. I have an angle grinder to grind the sides back square. I like the idea of using a small jack and a block of wood to hold a large pipe wrench in place.

Thanks again for all the great ideas. I will keep you posted as to the outcome.

Billy

 

[Soundguy]

let us know how it turns out.

save the old plug.. and if you get a chance.. 'fix' it by grinding it square.. or welding that nut on it that farm and I suggested.. it's a big upgrade from the large square it came with.

I have one like that on my 541.. I opted for that over a new plug as i got a non monster size wrench that fits it easy.. that and a new soft fibre gasket and just snug is all ya need.

soundguy