Has anybody calibrated the torque on a Dewalt 20V max drill?

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I was just wondering if anybody has calculated the torque their drill is putting on a screw or nut with real numbers, either by comparing it to a torque wrench or doing it manually (weight on a lever).

I've been tightening a lot of bolts and was wondering what the "15" represented in terms of real life, and all my torque wrenches are 820 miles away.
 
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I would guess less than 10ftlbs maybe closer to 6-8?

On a 18V Milwaukee 2606/07 drills the number 15 clutch setting is listed for about 50 inlbs

A Milwaukee FUEL Drill/Driver specs their top clutch setting (#24) @ 95inlbs

Not all like using an impact driver :D
 
   / Has anybody calibrated the torque on a Dewalt 20V max drill?
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Thanks for the data points.
 
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I couldn't hazard a guess what values each setting may have. At full throttle it has a lot more oomph than stated earlier. From the DeWalt website:


DCF886B Specifications


Voltage
20V MAX*

Drive Size
1/4" Hex

Anvil Type
Quick Release

No Load Speed
0 - 2,800rpm

Impacts/Min
0 - 3,200ipm

Max Torque (in-lbs)
1,500in-lbs

Max Torque (ft-lbs)
125ft-lbs

Tool Length
5.55"

Tool Weight
2.1lbs

Shipping Weight
2.7lbs

DCF886B 20V MAX* XR Lithium Ion Brushless 1/4" Impact Driver (Tool Only) | DEWALT Tools
 
   / Has anybody calibrated the torque on a Dewalt 20V max drill?
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I couldn't hazard a guess what values each setting may have. At full throttle it has a lot more oomph than stated earlier. From the DeWalt website:


DCF886B Specifications

<snip>
Thanks, nice listing for the impact driver, wonder why they only publish the number of clutch settings for the drill.
 
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Thanks, nice listing for the impact driver, wonder why they only publish the number of clutch settings for the drill.

Could be the torque varies some from tool to tool and they don't want people coming back with complaints about calibration.

Reminds me of a situation many years ago when I worked for a small electrical contractor and we installed a lot of electric heat with line voltage thermostats in each room. For a while we used stats with degree markings. There were a number of calls from people who complained they set the stat at 68 degrees and the room measured 70 with a thermometer. We switched to stats with a dial that had "LO, MED, HI" with hash marks between. No more complaints.
 
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I don't think the clutches on drills are real precise or meant to be precise enough to "apply" torque. They are very simple slip clutches, mainly meant to "release". The ones I have taken apart have no means of adjustment for calibration (i.e., if you wanted to tune them into a spec). I know torque wrenches and torque limiters have very precise mechanical adjustments, but the slip clutches I have looked at in drills have all been very basic.

It would be interesting to see how repeatable a drill's slip clutch was, if one had a means to test that. I know when I used to use a drill to drive screws, I found that a single setting would never suffice for very long. Small variations in wood hardness, friction, etc, would make almost every screw behave different. So the clutch helps, but is not perfect.

Interestingly, the one clutch that has always worked perfect for me is my 1980s-vintage Black&Decker Pro Drywall gun. That clutch slips based on the depth of the screw head, which is set by spinning a "nozzle" in and out around the driver bit, so that the head gets recessed just the right amount. That was back when B&D still made good tools. We'd lock the trigger to keep the motors running and keep on zipping screws in as fast as we could. I used the gun again in 2012 when finishing the bonus room at my old house prior to sale, and the old girl still worked like a charm. There is some satisfaction to driving a drywall screw to exactly the right depth....
 

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