Grease Fittings

[KenGod]

I did my 400 hour service today. Changed engine/filter oil, hydro oil/filters, gas filter and greased the fittings.
The grease fittings is what I have always had a problem with. 3 or 4 of the fittings just wont take grease, it spews back out around the fitting and the gun tip. all other fitting take grease good. I have changed the fittings thinking "bad Fittings" but still no go on the grease intake. Anyone else have this problem with some of there fittings?
I also found out today when I changed my engine oil that they gave my a filter for a ck25 last time I changed my oil. The filter this time was allot smaller so I brought the new one and the old one to my dealer to figure out what was up. My dealer said it was ok, it was a filter for a ck25 and the ck25 filter just has more filtering capacity, otherwise is the same. I was happy to here that.
One more question, after I did my oil change this time and I started it up the engine revved up and allot of smoke came shooting out of the exhaust pipe I quick hit the fuel shut off and she shut down, I double checked everything and all was good, I restarted and It ran normal. Any ideas what that was all about? I dont remember that hapening on the over oil changes I did.

Thanks
Ken

 

[Highbeam]

Wow! Sounds like you left bumped the throttle up while the engine was off. Either at the dash or on the pump. I have never in 7 oil changes had an engine rev up upon restarting. I have seen people that like to start a diesel with the throttle at something other than low idle and when the engine starts it makes white smoke from all the fuel.

 

[JoelD]

wonder if it's possible you got some oil into the intake, unlikely for sure, but sounds like other than full throttle like prior poster prognosticated (correct word?).

Oil in intake would result in what you stated.


Which grease fittings are giving you trouble? Sometimes if the joint is bound up it will not take grease, I run into this on my bucket sometimes, I move bucket and fitting will take grease.

Joel

 

[IslandTractor]

prognosticated (correct word?).

Maybe "diagnosed" would be better. Prognosis is good however.

I have also had battles with grease zerks. Sometimes crud blocks the grease, sometimes there is too much pressure on the pin or axle to allow grease to get in. I bought one of those zerk fixer thingies from AgriSupply that basically just allows you to put a light weight oil into the fitting under pressure (mallet) and that has actually solved a few of the zerk problems I had. I presume the high pressure low viscosity oil is just clearing out old grease or dirt as after using it the zerk usually works fine. It hasn't worked in every case (no effect on the difficult axle zerks on a CK20 for example--better to unload the axle). It also hasn't worked on one sticky zerk on my backhoe but I haven't taken that apart yet to see what the issue is.

 

[Eagleview]

I did my 400 hour service today. Changed engine/filter oil, hydro oil/filters, gas filter and greased the fittings.
The grease fittings is what I have always had a problem with. 3 or 4 of the fittings just wont take grease, it spews back out around the fitting and the gun tip. all other fitting take grease good. I have changed the fittings thinking "bad Fittings" but still no go on the grease intake. Anyone else have this problem with some of there fittings?
I also found out today when I changed my engine oil that they gave my a filter for a ck25 last time I changed my oil. The filter this time was allot smaller so I brought the new one and the old one to my dealer to figure out what was up. My dealer said it was ok, it was a filter for a ck25 and the ck25 filter just has more filtering capacity, otherwise is the same. I was happy to here that.
One more question, after I did my oil change this time and I started it up the engine revved up and allot of smoke came shooting out of the exhaust pipe I quick hit the fuel shut off and she shut down, I double checked everything and all was good, I restarted and It ran normal. Any ideas what that was all about? I dont remember that hapening on the over oil changes I did.

Thanks
Ken

If you filled the crankcase via the tappet cover it is possible that some oil leaked past the exhaust valve guides and into the cylinder causing the smoke .

 

[KenGod]

Iron horse , you could be right, I did pout the oil in a very high rate. only did it that one time for 3-5 sec.

The fittings are 3 of the 4 where the bucket attaches to the loader arms, another one is under the ck at the front axle pivots on the frame and almost every one on the backhoe arm.

Ken

 

[IslandTractor]

The fittings are 3 of the 4 where the bucket attaches to the loader arms, another one is under the ck at the front axle pivots on the frame and almost every one on the backhoe arm.

Ken

First, the front axle zerks are difficult to fill on the CK and it is easier if you lift the weight off the axle using the loader.

The others are pretty routine to fill however so I am wondering if you have trouble with almost all of the zerks on the FEL pin mount and all the backhoe zerks that maybe there is a problem with your grease gun or fitting. Have you used it successfully on other grease fittings? Is it tight enough on the Kioti zerks? Was there a prolonged time when there was no greasing so that grease may have "dried out" and clogged the zerks?

If it were me, I'd pull off a couple of the zerks and clean them then reinstall to see if that fixes the problem. Otherwise it really may be the grease gun fitting I'd think.

Although those 'zerk fixer tools' are not cheap (about $40 as I recall from AgriSupply), it is a nice thing to have around the barn. I find it particularly useful for my 4n1 bucket which has a couple of zerks that always get jammed into the dirt. I can usually clear them in a minute or two rather than having to remove them for a complete cleaning.

 

[KenGod]

I can get grease in the other fittings, all the upper loader fittings, ball joints, throttle, etc

ken

 

[Highbeam]

I have more problems with those bucket zercs than any otehr and the reason is that they are recessed into the bucket. The recess around the zerc fills with dirt and debris and makes it very difficult to get the grease gun all the way onto the zerc. The gun feeds grease much easier if it is all the way on or all the way off of the zerc. I use a small screwdriver or piece of wire to clear out around the zerc.

Another thing I did a year or so ago was switch to the buttery amber grease instead of the toothpaste red or grey grease. It is thinner so goes in easier. Still meets spec though.

 

[IslandTractor]

I have more problems with those bucket zercs than any otehr and the reason is that they are recessed into the bucket. The recess around the zerc fills with dirt and debris and makes it very difficult to get the grease gun all the way onto the zerc. .

I've had that issue too. I routinely carry a small flat screwdriver with me to clean out the accummulated goop which does help.

 

[Eagleview]

Just wondering about all the blocked zerk fittings that keep comming up . I wonder if a piece of inner speedo cable or a piece of the outside of a choke cable put into a drill chuck and slowly fed into the grease hole . You would need to "slowly" rotate the drill in the direction that would not unwind the cable . I wonder if the cable would be flexible enough to follow the hole and clean it out . I can feel a patent comming on . Someone may want to try it and let me know , but if it breaks off in the hole do'nt let me know

 

[IslandTractor]

Before I bought a tractor I was blissfully ignorant of life without zerks. I obviously was living in a fool's paradise though I did, on an annual basis, grease up the Craftsman mower. Now I own about 50 or more of the little buggers on the tractor, FEL, BH and various implements. I discover or rediscover new ones occasionally in places I never knew existed. I have come to think of zerks about the same way I think of jerks. Ya just have to learn to live with them though sometimes you need to yank them out of their little holes and blast them with some unpleasant substance to keep them in line. I have learned to hate engineers who place zerks that only a left handed microbe can conveniently access. I have a special voodoo doll for engineers who put zerks in places where they routinely fill up with dirt. I could throttle tractor and implement manual writers/graphic artists who don't bother to publish a complete list and diagram of installed zerks. I wish a painful death on those who place zerks in positions on load bearing pins so that you can only fill the fitting by starting the tractor and removing the load first. Who was the ********* that decided it was a good idea to have about ten different sizes of these things so you never had exactly the right replacement without a special trip to the parts counter? Where is the vocabulary needed to describe to the parts guy exactly which type of zerk you are in search of? I now own a special $40 tool for giving zerks light oil enemas when they become constipated. I've gone from one to five grease guns with about 10 tips and extensions and gizmos in search of the perfect gear to permit a pleasant zerk maintenance program. I'm not there yet. Zen and the art of zerk filling is a goal I have obviously not yet acheived. Zerk nirvana must be out there somewhere. Oooooommmm.

 

[KenGod]

LOL good explanation IslandTractor, let me know when you do get your "pleasant zerk maintenance program" fiqured out.

All the diff size zerks is what Really kills me, dumb, dumb, dumb
Ken

 

[JoelD]

Love the ode to the zerk.

My John Deere Dozer has what are called button zerks, had to drive 30 miles to buy special adapter for my grease gun.

What ever happened to sealed bearings, I had them on my huffy 30 years ago.