Gooseneck Truck Camper Build

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davemhughes

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Ft.Riley KS
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SAME 40hp turbo charged 4cyl diesel w/fel
This is a thread to help others if they have an interest or are actually slipping over to the 'Dark Side".

Mine is for going to Moab and Colorado riding dirt biker and such. Maybe a crawler later in the future. I did all the work myself.

The trailer is a 30ft 14k Lamar lowboy. For a Gooseneck truck camper, one of the main issues is knowing how long the actual footprint of the camper is L & W. Then you need to make sure the trailer deck distance from the front of the trailer to the fender well has enough room. My 20ft 14k lowboy did not have enough deck distance to the camper to sit and not contact the fenders. Inside the fender is 88" and to outside rubrail to outside rubrail is 96", with outside fender to outside fender is 102".

The camper is a 2012 AF 1140. I went and inspected it before starting the mods to get it mounted on the trailer. I had already made one mistake on other TC and members here were very helpful lending some solid advice on that one. This Af 1140 looks like it has been well cared for and has many of the nicer add-on features. It was on consignment from a motivated seller.

The camper came with Reico-titan 2500lb wireless camper jacks, with the swing out brackets, and Fastguns. I had to make a set of 8" camper jack extensions out of some plate steel and angle iron. Since I was 300 miles aways I needed to reach out to many sources to confirm bolt hole measurements....and I did call Reico-titan but their bolt hole pattern measurements but in the end, the mechanic at the dealer helped most. The dealer was telling me it could not be done after first saying the would load it on the trailer with forklifts on each side then backing out once I left to return home to build the support pedestal for it to sit on. If I had known that I would have measured everything multiple times to machne out a set of extension brackets. In the end, they fit perfect and allowed the legs to slip past the outside of the fenders and tires.

I also had to find extensions for the Reico-titan jack electrical plugins. That was easy once I found a clear enough picture that showed they were SAE 2 prong plugs and I just got some 12" long extensions for like $10 for a pack of 5 shipped. They worked great.

I also spiced intot he Gooseneck trailers wiring to wire up an RV plug to plug into the TC make all the lights and such work on it while traveling. They worked really well. Heavy equipment trailer 7 blade connection and RV 7 blade connections are not the same. Different color wires do different things on each. But I got it sorted out and it was well lit up on part of the night drive home.

The pedestal that the camper was going to rest on was 48"x103 x 12" high. I had already made it for the other camper so I made it work for this one. Build out of 2x12 treated materials. I anchored the camper to the steel rub rails for the trip home. It was absolutely rock solid on the 300 mile interstate trip home. Never moved an inch.

Now once home, I lifted the camper up, unbolted the pedestal, pulled that out, braced under it with 6x6 timbers and built a new one that is much much lower. I also extended the length of the pedestal out to 120". I slightly re-routed the generator exhaust. In the photos in my driveway, the Fastguns are just to hold it steady before locking the camper down. I secured the new pedestal tot he deck with Timber Lag bolts.

I installed a Draw-tite hide a ball in my wife\s 2016 2500 Cummins. My 1-ton diesel 4x4 would have made it but we are taking hers on our vacation to Nova Scotia pulling this so I needed to set hers up. My 201 3500 diesel I have had since new. Good truck but I would not take it to Canada when her 6.7 diesel is basically new. The GN ball install was a job as the hole saw I had was not very good even though it was a name brand and $$. took me like 4.5 hours, I could do another one is like 2.5 hrs now that I have done it. I also installed Timbren DR2500D Suspension Enhancement System on her truck. Super easy and worth every cent.

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I used the below as a pattern for what I made. Mine is almost like this except instead of welding it I used high strength bolts to bolt it together. I will photograph mine. I got the metal from a salvage yard and cut them with a chop saw and used my drill press to drill the hole. I have a small Lincoln flux welder but was concerned about getting depth penetration on the steel. So I went with drilling and bolting together. It worked great, gave me a total of 118 inches between the jacks.

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Then just basics of pedestal construction. I have redone it since getting it home and it is much lower and longer. I worked great to get the GN Camper home. The camper sits on the marine grade carpet, not the 2x6s just laying on top. I took those off when I got down there and screwed them to the side to prevent lateral movement of the camper (Where the 2x4s are in the photo.) I used the 2x6s t go higher up for the trip home. Now I have 2x12s to really provide stronger side to side security. The internal part of the pedestal is double joists 16" on center. I had one of my son's who is an Engineer review my plans I made.


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We have gone completely through the camper, we cleaned, lubed, tightened, secured, caulked, bug bombed, flushed and sanitized the tanks, serviced onboard Onan genny, replaced all of the lights with LED inside and out, and purchased as many of the needed items as we could think of. Many of this by lurking others posts on what they did or are doing. We are like 5 weeks out from out our Nova Scotia trip.

I have my satellite hooked up and working, added trailer steps, added tool boxes, added fuel bottles, and Honda Generator for next trip.

Rushing to try to get 300-400w solar system purchased and installed before we go.

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I have already test towed it 400 miles at interstate speeds
 
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Nice job. I did something similar mounting a 12' enclosed trailer on the front of a similar gooseneck trailer. Works very well. I did however run into some issues with the tongue weight being too much so I had to move the trailer axles forward. I doubt you will have that problem as your camper is likely much lighter than my trailer.

The only pain about these setups which I am sure you will encounter as well is if you have something loaded on the back you can't open the door to get in the camper. I haul a UTV on the back of the trailer and it blocks the ability to open the rear doors of the trailer. Not a huge deal but has been inconvenient at times.

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I like how you pulled the trailer axles and put it up front, I would have thought it would have worked out very well. I am really surprised you had a weight issue with the enclosed trailer and how it sat, part way on your front axle.

I plan to weigh the rig this weekend and calculate my hitch weight. The Arctic Fox camper is about 4200#.

I should not really any issue opening the back of the camper as I plan to haul dirt bikes and such.
 
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My trailer weighed around 6k I think with everything in it. The pivot point is the midpoint between the two axles so virtually all of the weight was in front of the midpoint meaning more or less half was carried on the axles and half on the hitch. If we pulled it with my dually we would have been fine but I have to have my guys pull it with a 3/4 ton to stay under CDL requirements as the flatbed is a 14k trailer. I slid the axles forward and all is good now. I have probably pulled it over 10k miles since this conversion.

With dirt bikes you should be fine. We put a Kubota RTV on the back and it basically butts up against the rear doors. Impossible to open the back with the Kubota on there. The enclosed trailer has a partition in it where the back part is storage and tools and the front is an office so the back part can't be accessed through the side door.
 
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Very Nice.

Anyone ever heard of putting a 20' shipping container on a flat bed and using as a camper? Maybe its a dumb idea.
 
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I did a similar thing but I used a bumper pull trailer. I built a steel skid to bolt the camper too so I could winch the camper off and on the trailer. I also have a steel stand that I store the camper on, not shown in the pictures, so it is easy to load and off load the camper from the trailer with the winch attached to the front of the trailer. That way I would have easy use of the trailer when not camping.
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Very Nice.

Anyone ever heard of putting a 20' shipping container on a flat bed and using as a camper? Maybe its a dumb idea.

No, I haven't but you could be the first....go for it. I wonder what the empty container would weigh?


I did a similar thing but I used a bumper pull trailer. I built a steel skid to bolt the camper too so I could winch the camper off and on the trailer. I also have a steel stand that I store the camper on, not shown in the pictures, so it is easy to load and off load the camper from the trailer with the winch attached to the front of the trailer. That way I would have easy use of the trailer when not camping.

I like it, I am always interested in outside the box projects.
 
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Spent Father's DAy with my son and I installed solar panels on the truck camper and a wifi booster set up. Both are working great.


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I figured I would update....yes I know, I can read the weight tickets so don't be bethat guy :)

I finally went and did the weight tickets. 2016 Ram 2500 Diesel 4wd short bed

1 just the truck empty showing front and rear axle weights

1 Loaded just the rear axle and trailer weight

1 Loaded front axle, rear axle, and trailer

Rear axle is overloaded even though it drove great

Last photo is hooked up to my dually 2001 Ram 3500 4wd 8ft bed. I will get weight tickets on this later in the week and Ibet it spreads the load better.


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I went and weighted the dually with the GN. About the same except the dually you can put more weight on the rear axle.

I will have to move the AF closer to the GN axles to shift load. I measured and I can move it 45 inches back towards the GN axles. I crunched some numbers and I am figuring once I move it back 45inches it will take about 1000# off the pin weight.

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