Gooseneck Tongue Recommendations

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zlock24

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I'm working on building a 14k 20 foot carhauler style trailer. The trailer has a 6 inch c channel frame. Initial I was planning on using 8" x 11.5 lb c channel to build the tongue. Is this sufficient? If not what material would yall reccomend to use?

My other options for are 8"x 10lb or 8"x 18lb I beam.

Thanks!
 
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I’m really not a fan of c channel on 14k trailers. I’d use I beam or square tube.
 
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Would an 8" x 10lb I beam or a 8" x 18lb beam be a decent option?

That is about all that I can get locally

I see a lot of 10in fairly light weight I beams used on trailers at dealerships, but no steel supplier even remotely close to me carries anything like it. The closest thing that I can get is a 10" x 33lb I beam and that is way too heavy for what I'm trying to acheive.
 
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8"x11 Lbs cee is sufecient but for the same money you can use 3"x6"x 3/16ths rectanger tube for added strength and ease of construction. IMO goose tongues are usually overbuilt and here's reasons I've come to this conclusion. (A) Specs for any type steel are hard to find in print and if you find specs someone paid an engineer to draw up,only an engineer can understand them well enough to use them for other than purpose engineer drawed them up for (bridge,skyscraper,semi trailer ect). (B) If and when a mfgr hire's an engineer to desighn a utility trailer with minimunm size material,it will do the job if not subjected to neglect and abuse. The mfgr's insurance company know's the trailers might be mis-used resulting in failure so they will not cover it unless built to double specs. The same insurer will cover lesser built rv frames since they are far more unlikly to be neglected and abused. Examine a 15k Lb travel trailer and you will see it's no where near heavy as a utility trailer. It's your trailer. If you inteend taking out fence posts small trees then not inspect before taking it on the freeway,do what mfgrs do. If you will treat it likeyou should,save fuel by not making it heavier than required to carry loads. Many will disagree so you have to decide how you feel. While I have the flame suit on I may as well stoke the flames even farthar. Most want the trailer to be rigid and not flex when stressed. I intentionally build flex in so that stress is spread rather than concentrated on a single joint or member. Watch a semi tractor and trailer frame as they cross a ditch. For that matter,watch your 3/4 ton truck frame as all four wheels are on different elivations.
 
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I'm working on building a 14k 20 foot carhauler style trailer. The trailer has a 6 inch c channel frame. Initial I was planning on using 8" x 11.5 lb c channel to build the tongue. Is this sufficient? If not what material would yall reccomend to use?

My other options for are 8"x 10lb or 8"x 18lb I beam.

Thanks!

I cant speak to which material I'd use, other than try to match similar trailers you might see around...

On that note, I noticed you're location is listed as New Martinsville also, wonder if we've crossed paths at some point... I'm on RT 89 out of Proctor.
 
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8"x11 Lbs cee is sufecient but for the same money you can use 3"x6"x 3/16ths rectanger tube for added strength and ease of construction. IMO goose tongues are usually overbuilt and here's reasons I've come to this conclusion. (A) Specs for any type steel are hard to find in print and if you find specs someone paid an engineer to draw up,only an engineer can understand them well enough to use them for other than purpose engineer drawed them up for (bridge,skyscraper,semi trailer ect). (B) If and when a mfgr hire's an engineer to desighn a utility trailer with minimunm size material,it will do the job if not subjected to neglect and abuse. The mfgr's insurance company know's the trailers might be mis-used resulting in failure so they will not cover it unless built to double specs. The same insurer will cover lesser built rv frames since they are far more unlikly to be neglected and abused. Examine a 15k Lb travel trailer and you will see it's no where near heavy as a utility trailer. It's your trailer. If you inteend taking out fence posts small trees then not inspect before taking it on the freeway,do what mfgrs do. If you will treat it likeyou should,save fuel by not making it heavier than required to carry loads. Many will disagree so you have to decide how you feel. While I have the flame suit on I may as well stoke the flames even farthar. Most want the trailer to be rigid and not flex when stressed. I intentionally build flex in so that stress is spread rather than concentrated on a single joint or member. Watch a semi tractor and trailer frame as they cross a ditch. For that matter,watch your 3/4 ton truck frame as all four wheels are on different elivations.

Your RV comparison isn’t apples to apples. The body of the camper adds a lot of structural integrity and it’s a pretty much evenly distributed load. I’ve cleaned up a few demolished mobile homes and you can’t move the frames without crumpling or at minimum serious deflection much less actually haul anything.
 
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Your RV comparison isn’t apples to apples. The body of the camper adds a lot of structural integrity and it’s a pretty much evenly distributed load. I’ve cleaned up a few demolished mobile homes and you can’t move the frames without crumpling or at minimum serious deflection much less actually haul anything.
And you think comparing RVs with mobile homes is? I spect folding tent trailers have less than any others(if trailers actully have integrity) and people use the frames to haul mowers,lumber and other stuff all the time. None of them have 5th wheels,but neither do those mobile homes.:laughing:
 

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