frozen cables on 3644

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got a new r 3644 last week, each time I have used it the loader controls(cable operated) and throttle have been frozen, live in the upper peninsula of MI - has been in the mid teens this week, Any one have any experience with this? Have not called the dealer yet-dont want to take half a day to run it down o him for a 1/2 hour fix. hoping someone has some insight on what I could use to dry out the cables and prevent this from happening. If I leave the tractor run for 15 min they free up. Tractor is kept in an un-heated shed. While I'm on it- any one have a 3644 out there- how have you liked it?
Thanks for the help.
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #2  
Most likely a combination of moisture and cold that is freezing it. I would get some wd40 or cable lube and keep spraying it and working it back and forth till you get it lubed up. If this doesnt work might be able to get a replacement cable and install yourself if covered under warrenty. Doesnt look that hard to install.
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #3  
got a new r 3644 last week, each time I have used it the loader controls(cable operated) and throttle have been frozen, live in the upper peninsula of MI - has been in the mid teens this week, Any one have any experience with this? Have not called the dealer yet-dont want to take half a day to run it down o him for a 1/2 hour fix. hoping someone has some insight on what I could use to dry out the cables and prevent this from happening. If I leave the tractor run for 15 min they free up. Tractor is kept in an un-heated shed. While I'm on it- any one have a 3644 out there- how have you liked it?
Thanks for the help.

Id have to agree, Spay down the cable ends and work it in. Also spray the valve as well, try to spray under the boot
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #4  
I would call the dealer and tell him I did not have time to come to the shop or wait on him but ask if there was anything that you can do without affecting your warranty. You dont want to do something that might cause issues later on
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #5  
It may well be frozen moisture - make that WATER in the cable housings.
I would try to FIX it, not just lube it.
SOMEHOW far too much water has got in there, check inner wire boots for MAJOR leaks.
I would have the cables out, hang them up to dry in a warm place, THEN lube them, replace any damaged or missing inner wire boots - and try again.
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #6  
my 2840 sometimes refuses to play. the curl function of the fel requires a few munites to come around i keep the tractor indside a portable garage, sometimes it rains indside almost as much as it does outside but besides that it kind of a pain when you need it to work.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys, I can not see any damage to any of the exterior boots, will take the cables off this weekend to dry them out and then lube, Seems this is the same problem as Shakin is having, same control on loader , leave it run for 15 min and it frees up on its own, so far mother nature is on my side, we have had snow about every other day so I can work ( Read-Play) with the tractor and blower, I am sure the pleasure will wear off by the end of winter though, will have to show my wife how to run the blower by then.
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #8  
power-sports industry uses an adapter that fastened to the end of a cable to inject and force a lubricate into the length of the cable casing. I would imagine something like a white lithium based grease. Anyway, this reduces the ability of water to penetrate the cable casing and therefore reduces the freezing.
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #9  
got a new r 3644 last week, each time I have used it the loader controls(cable operated) and throttle have been frozen, live in the upper peninsula of MI - has been in the mid teens this week, Any one have any experience with this? Have not called the dealer yet-dont want to take half a day to run it down o him for a 1/2 hour fix. hoping someone has some insight on what I could use to dry out the cables and prevent this from happening. If I leave the tractor run for 15 min they free up. Tractor is kept in an un-heated shed. While I'm on it- any one have a 3644 out there- how have you liked it?
Thanks for the help.

I second the recommendation of "MontanaKid" and suggest using a "Cable Lubricator". Browse the link below, the cable lubricator is the first item at the top. The company has a 1-800 number for orders. The "Red Line" lubricant is a very good lubricant to use for this and other lubrications jobs you may have. The smooth operation of a cable after lubrication is most remarkable.

Cable Lubricator at Motorcycle Superstore
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #10  
I second the recommendation of "MontanaKid" and suggest using a "Cable Lubricator". Browse the link below, the cable lubricator is the first item at the top. The company has a 1-800 number for orders. The "Red Line" lubricant is a very good lubricant to use for this and other lubrications jobs you may have. The smooth operation of a cable after lubrication is most remarkable.

Cable Lubricator at Motorcycle Superstore
Actually they have had those cable lubricators for years and years and years. I used to use them in the 70s. I also used wd40 to displace any water in the cable jacket out since that is what it is made for.
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #11  
i honestly think the spool valve is opening it's just not getting enough flow,
 
   / frozen cables on 3644 #12  
I have a problem that reminds me of what you guys are talking about but it is not weather related. If I turn my tractor off and lower the front end loader to the ground. (so I am not keeping pressure on the seals.) When I first start the tractor and try to use the loader it wont work for a few minutes. After I have put the loader control in the up position for a few minutes it will work slowly and then work normal. I am sure the not working problem is air in the lines. I believe that it gets it when I allow the bucket to coast down to the ground with the tractor turned off and I think it is ingesting air at the point. If I remember to put the bucket on the ground with some down pressure and turn the tractor off then go to float mode and take the pressure off of the bucket then I dont have the problem when I go to run the tractor the next time.

Is any of the problems you are having similar to that ?
 

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