Ford Pickup = "Found On Road Dead"

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JimR

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Ford Pickup = \"Found On Road Dead\"

My 1994 Ford F250 project pickup turned into a real disaster today. I was driving home from the city when all of a sudden the exhaust got real loud and the motor starting skipping. At least I thought it was the exhaust. So I pulled over and opened the hood to take a look. Two of the spark plugs had blown right out of the cylinder head on the right side. One still had the hex nut but no threads. The other was just the porcelain part. So I drove my 6 cylinder V-8 home with the loudest air compressor that I have ever heard. After I got home I tried to remove the bases still in the head. No way, they were not coming out. I also tried to remove the other 2 plugs on this side. They broke right off at the threads leaving me with 4 broken plugs in one head. The plugs on the left head came out without too much difficulty. I did make a call to the previous owner to see when he changed these last. He claimed they were changed around 40-50K. Well the truck only has 90K on it. Rather than try to drill and tap out the remaining threads I decided to pull the motor apart and yank the head off. I didn't like the idea of all that metal floating around in the cylinders. What a mistake this was. I broke off 3 of the 4 corner intake manifold bolts. They snapped off right at the cylinder head nice and clean. The other corner bolt rounded off and I couldn't get it out even with forcing a smaller socket onto it. So I drilled the head of the bolt and knocked it off with a chisel. So now the intake manifold is off. The left side valve cover bolts were all rotted. One broke clean off and another could not be removed. I ended up ripping the valve cover off. No biggy as it was pretty well rusted also and needed to be replaced anyway. All of the exhaust bolts needed to be cut off with a torch. None of them could have been removed as there was no head to put a socket onto. All the external 11/16 hex head headbolts were removed using a 9/16 socket hammered over the rust. This is a ------ shame that Ford is making rust buckets. This is the last time I ever spend my money on a used Ford pickup. A trip to the dealer confirmed that they are having a rash of rusted out valve covers, oil pans, exhaust manifolds rotting and cracking, exhaust bolts rotting off, the A.I.R. pipes rotting off, spark plug shields rotting out, egr pipe rotting off, front and rear spring shackles rotting off and who knows what else. The parts guy was pretty good about telling me all of this. Looks to me like "Ford Built Tough Trucks" means sell it before it gets old or before it has too many miles on it. What really amazed me was that Ford had all of these parts in stock. There must be a high turnaround on these items. Otherwise they would not stock these parts. Out of all the used vehicles my wife and I have owned over the years, none of them have ever been rotted out as bad as this pickup engine is. Here's the four spark plugs out of the left head. Ford, Shame on you. The spark plugs were made by Champion.
 

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I think that what you are experiencing is the result of the snow melting chemicals that are being used on the roads of MA. I remember when we had a Taurus, Ford sent out a letter advising of rust problems with the front suspension. The recall was confined to New England.
One other thing that I have learned through the years. Never try to take any bolts or spark plugs out of a hot engine. The heat has expanded everything and the clearances are too tight. I have a set of Snap-On extractors that I used for just removing spark plug bases. I don't know why the porcelain blows out, but I have seen this only in the past 10 years. Prior to that, I had never seen a plug come apart, but I did see a lot that had been cracked off the base. I don't envy your work that you have ahead of you.
 
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I did let the motor cool off before I went to work on it. I did my parts running around while it cooled off. I knew the head was going to have to come off. I did try the easy out method and could not budge the two broken bases. At least now I can drill the plug out and retap the holes a lot easier than it would have been in the truck. What I hate is having to drill all of the exhaust manifold bolts and 4 manifold bolts in the heads. I agree that the quality of spark plugs has gone downhill. I have never in my 36 years of working on vehicles seen such rot or plugs like this. It is probably due to poor quality steel from overseas or Mexico and our salt. I've seen way too many junk blocks that came out of south of the border also.
 
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Wow! I've seen plugs missing most, or all, of their tips, but not what you've shown. Dang. No doubt about whether you need new ones. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Are you sure it isn't a Cadillac? They are the only vehicle that I know of where it is standard procedure for the head bolts to snap off. This occurs on many Cadillac models right from the start. Maybe your Ford pickup wanted to be a Cadillac. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Suggest you start thinking Long Block! Probably make life much easier and you will end up with a decent engine.

Chances are the other head is in no better shape.

Egon
 
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Jim
Stop in Kaitebensky construction on 148 next time down that road. He has four Ford 01 pick ups and this happened to all of them,. Last time I was there visiting, his mechanic had to call Lamareas Ford(sp) because plugs broke on him. After towing that particular truck to the dealership, he was hit with 1500.00 bill for another set of heads. THese trucks are 5.4's. There is something in the metal of Ford heads and plugs that this happens way too much
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Wow! I've seen plugs missing most, or all, of their tips, but not what you've shown. Dang. No doubt about whether you need new ones. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Are you sure it isn't a Cadillac? They are the only vehicle that I know of where it is standard procedure for the head bolts to snap off. This occurs on many Cadillac models right from the start. Maybe your Ford pickup wanted to be a Cadillac. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>

I wish it were a Caddy so I could burn it up and collect the insurance money. Only Kidding.
 
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If it makes you feel any better, rust isn't limited to Ford products. Like Junkman said, the biggest cause is the salts and chemicals used on the roads in the North East. Just look at the older Ford tractors that are still running around with hardly any rust on them at all because they don't have to deal with road salt.

On the model truck you have the worst problem areas are the hood latch and rear fender wells on the truck box. Also, the straight six oil pans rotted out also but this is a problem with some cars of another make as well. Good luck to you and hope you get this fixed without much more trouble.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Suggest you start thinking Long Block! Probably make life much easier and you will end up with a decent engine.

Chances are the other head is in no better shape.

Egon )</font>


The motor runs like a clock and doesn't use any oil. I really don't want to change it out either unless I could find a new one for cheap money.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Jim
Stop in Kaitebensky construction on 148 next time down that road. He has four Ford 01 pick ups and this happened to all of them,. Last time I was there visiting, his mechanic had to call Lamareas Ford(sp) because plugs broke on him. After towing that particular truck to the dealership, he was hit with 1500.00 bill for another set of heads. THese trucks are 5.4's. There is something in the metal of Ford heads and plugs that this happens way too much )</font>

I wonder if that motor on the 5.4 has aluminum heads. I know what happens to steel when mated with aluminum. It makes quite the bond that can't be broken. These manufacturers should be using neverseize on the sparkplugs. As to the salt eating my Champion spark plugs, I'll agree with that. But I have never seen the likes of this on any vehicle. I looked at 6 1993-1994 Ford's before I bought this one. This truck had the least amount of rust on it body wise and frame wise. I hate to even think of just how bad the other ones really were. I am going to send these plugs back to Champion just for the heck of it. I want to see what they have to say about it.
 

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