AndyMA
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I have a Ford Jubilee that I bought last year for 2600.00 with a Brush Hog. I deployed to Iraq and just recently returned. When I went to start up my tractor, I noticed the freeze plugs had popped out the sides. I am guessing when it got real cold here in MO the water froze. I never checked the coolent type when I bought it, but I am thinking it had to be full of water. The pan also bowed out at the bottom of the radiator and now leaks. Not sure what else might be broke, but I am thinking it needs a rebuild. I think I am going to cut my losses and buy a new tractor. Any idea on what I should ask for the Jubilee in "as is" condition.
John
First, thanks for your military service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know prices but these guys do. If you don't get many responses in this forum, go to the NewHolland (Ford) forum...they'll hook you up.
Good luck
I agree, thanks for your service! I think any of the tractors such as Deere, NH and so on, will do well for you. I have New Holland and love it. It has had some electrical problems, temp gauge. But it has lots of power and as I said, I really like it.
welcome home!
A new tractor is a good thing. I'd might do some more research a fixing it. a jubilee is a fine tractor. How is the rest of the drivetrain and the sheetmetal?
Is it orginal or cobbled up? Do you have the some of the skill or resources to tackle a job such as this? a good runnig jubilee with decent paint will bring 5k in my area. If you weren't 1000 plus miles away I'd be interested in taking a look at it.
If you are deadset on losing it , I'd consider parting it out.
checkout these sites for information on fixing it, selling it whole or parting it out.
Yesterday's Tractors - Discussion Forums
SSB Tractor: Parts, Manuals, Implements for Farm Tractors & Antique Tractors
N Tractor Club
good luck in whatever road you choose
Not only a rebuild, but possibly buying a few major parts (i.e. engine block, head, ect) Labor (if you hire it done) , machine work, and basic rebuild kit could EASILY top $2500. Add a radiator (or a re-core of the old one,) tack on another $100 to $250. I'd look for another Jube with a decent motor as a "donor tractor". Take 2 and make 1 GOOD one. OR... I've got a Jube to restore. Looking around for "parts tractors" in a condition similar to yours, I've ran on to a couple for $750 and $900.
Mornin John,
Gee that doesnt sound too good ! But before I did anymore I would reinstall the freeze out plugs, get the radiator fixed and see if the tractor will hold antifreeze. Maybe you got lucky ! Good luck!
As the others have said, Thanks for your service. I would keep the tractor. You can never have too many tractors. Buy new if you want, but keep this as a fixer upper. It will give you something to do after fields are plowed, mowed, firewood hauled, trenches dug, etc. etc. While the rest of us are waiting for spring, you can be out in the shop "tractoring", by working on the Jubilee. Keep us posted
Welcome Home and Thank you for your service.
From what I recall a Jubilee is a glorified Ford 8N, the Jubilee has overhead valves (more power) and live hydralics. The engine can be accessed in about an hour, if its like the 8N, you can drain the fuel and remove the hood (tank and hood are attached and you need a buddy to help you take it off). Then you should have access to the radiator to drain and replace (if needed) and if you need to replace the oil pan, the front axle is held on by 6-8 bolts that bolt into the front of the oil pan, remove the front axle/tires unit and then you should have full access to everything you need to get to. Total time into this (so far) maybe 2 hours.
I probably skipped a few things but this is a quick idea on what you will need (at least we did on Ford 8N's) to do an engine rebuild on these tractors. These Ford tractors are EXTREMELY easy to work on, using very common tools.
Good Luck.
I might be able to find a buyer for that Jubilee... Does the Son-in-Law of a LTC Ret. get a better deal or do I pay more because I know how underpaid you really are?
My dad has one and I think they would make a great pair.... You might check the vintage section too for more info.... it doesn't happen to have a loader does it? My dad's does.... moved lots of horse poop with that sucker...
I'd pull the plugs and put a wrench on the crank and turn her over by hand...If I didn't encounter any bad crunch sounds, then I'd actualy drain the oil, and leave plug out, repalce welch plugs and refill the radiator. if you can see the leak onthe radiator, hit it with some epoxy paste just to keepit from leaking.. this will only be a test. See if you get drip-drip from oil drain.
If not, then refillwith jiffy store oil, turn her over a few times with starter, then pop plugs back in, and try to stasrt her... worst case is you have a bad engine.
This is the go-no go test.
If you want the real deal.. ya gotta pull the block down for a looksee.
If the rest o fthe tractor is ok.. you might just get a used 134 gas engine for her.. lots of those layig around from jubes' 600 and 601 as well as industrial engines..
Soundguy
Sounds encouraging. I think the freeze plugs "saved" the block. Rather fix the radiator than the block. I'd take the radiator to a radiator repair shop and see what they can do.
Andy
John
First, thanks for your military service!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know prices but these guys do. If you don't get many responses in this forum, go to the NewHolland (Ford) forum...they'll hook you up.
Good luck
I agree, thanks for your service! I think any of the tractors such as Deere, NH and so on, will do well for you. I have New Holland and love it. It has had some electrical problems, temp gauge. But it has lots of power and as I said, I really like it.
welcome home!
A new tractor is a good thing. I'd might do some more research a fixing it. a jubilee is a fine tractor. How is the rest of the drivetrain and the sheetmetal?
Is it orginal or cobbled up? Do you have the some of the skill or resources to tackle a job such as this? a good runnig jubilee with decent paint will bring 5k in my area. If you weren't 1000 plus miles away I'd be interested in taking a look at it.
If you are deadset on losing it , I'd consider parting it out.
checkout these sites for information on fixing it, selling it whole or parting it out.
Yesterday's Tractors - Discussion Forums
SSB Tractor: Parts, Manuals, Implements for Farm Tractors & Antique Tractors
N Tractor Club
good luck in whatever road you choose
SGTLOWE said:
Not only a rebuild, but possibly buying a few major parts (i.e. engine block, head, ect) Labor (if you hire it done) , machine work, and basic rebuild kit could EASILY top $2500. Add a radiator (or a re-core of the old one,) tack on another $100 to $250. I'd look for another Jube with a decent motor as a "donor tractor". Take 2 and make 1 GOOD one. OR... I've got a Jube to restore. Looking around for "parts tractors" in a condition similar to yours, I've ran on to a couple for $750 and $900.
SGTLOWE said:
Mornin John,
Gee that doesnt sound too good ! But before I did anymore I would reinstall the freeze out plugs, get the radiator fixed and see if the tractor will hold antifreeze. Maybe you got lucky ! Good luck!
As the others have said, Thanks for your service. I would keep the tractor. You can never have too many tractors. Buy new if you want, but keep this as a fixer upper. It will give you something to do after fields are plowed, mowed, firewood hauled, trenches dug, etc. etc. While the rest of us are waiting for spring, you can be out in the shop "tractoring", by working on the Jubilee. Keep us posted
Welcome Home and Thank you for your service.
From what I recall a Jubilee is a glorified Ford 8N, the Jubilee has overhead valves (more power) and live hydralics. The engine can be accessed in about an hour, if its like the 8N, you can drain the fuel and remove the hood (tank and hood are attached and you need a buddy to help you take it off). Then you should have access to the radiator to drain and replace (if needed) and if you need to replace the oil pan, the front axle is held on by 6-8 bolts that bolt into the front of the oil pan, remove the front axle/tires unit and then you should have full access to everything you need to get to. Total time into this (so far) maybe 2 hours.
I probably skipped a few things but this is a quick idea on what you will need (at least we did on Ford 8N's) to do an engine rebuild on these tractors. These Ford tractors are EXTREMELY easy to work on, using very common tools.
Good Luck.
I might be able to find a buyer for that Jubilee... Does the Son-in-Law of a LTC Ret. get a better deal or do I pay more because I know how underpaid you really are?
My dad has one and I think they would make a great pair.... You might check the vintage section too for more info.... it doesn't happen to have a loader does it? My dad's does.... moved lots of horse poop with that sucker...I'd pull the plugs and put a wrench on the crank and turn her over by hand...If I didn't encounter any bad crunch sounds, then I'd actualy drain the oil, and leave plug out, repalce welch plugs and refill the radiator. if you can see the leak onthe radiator, hit it with some epoxy paste just to keepit from leaking.. this will only be a test. See if you get drip-drip from oil drain.
If not, then refillwith jiffy store oil, turn her over a few times with starter, then pop plugs back in, and try to stasrt her... worst case is you have a bad engine.
This is the go-no go test.
If you want the real deal.. ya gotta pull the block down for a looksee.
If the rest o fthe tractor is ok.. you might just get a used 134 gas engine for her.. lots of those layig around from jubes' 600 and 601 as well as industrial engines..
Soundguy
SGTLOWE said:
Sounds encouraging. I think the freeze plugs "saved" the block. Rather fix the radiator than the block. I'd take the radiator to a radiator repair shop and see what they can do.
Andy
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