Ford 801 and 860

[jeff pk]

I'm thinking of buying a frozen-engine 801 as a parts tractor for my 860. Other than the later year, what does the 801 have or not have? Does the 0 indicate no PTO? Owner said it was a 5 speed, wasn't sure about hydraulics etc.

Thanks.

 

[Soundguy]

a couple issues.

801 is a series.. means it is a 172ci engine built from 58-62 model years.

800 was a 172ci engine built from 55-57 model years.

the '6' in the 860 means it has a 5spd trans and live pto / dual clutch


that '801' .. you need to find the middle digit out on it's trans bellhousing to determine it's trans and pto setup.

4 is a 4spd, non live pto, single clutch

5 is a 5 spd, non live pto, single clutch

6 is a 5spd, live pto, dual clutch.

in 59/01 series the following were also added.. adn common

7 SOS 10spd full powershift trranny, ind pto

8, "" + ground speed pto / dual speed pto

not sure what your 860 needs.. but there will be some important differences from the 800 and an 801.. pinion spline differences.. fine / coarse.

brake cross shaft at the tranny..

clutch possibly different depending on model.

if the 801 is an sos.. LOTS of differences aft of the engine.

from the engine forward though.. pretty much the same..

if the 801 has a bad engine.. you could swap in your 860 engine..e tc..

post back some details.

what's wrong with the 860 for instance?

 

[jeff pk]

The hood says 801 powermaster. I'll see if there's another number on the bh. What's wrong with my 860? It's 55 years old. Hydraulics need work---botton half of sector doesn't lift and it leaks down. Tin is all welded together into one piece. Needs a few odds and ends---nothing major.

 

[Soundguy]

the hyds are easy fixes.

a 13$ oring and gasket kit, a dowel rod and a welding rod..

repalce cam follower pin.. weld up can.. repalce piston seals.. etc.. readjust lift cover.. 2hr job...

55ys old means nothing.

I have a herd of 00/01 tractors.. most of them ford.

once fixed.. they work fine.

My weekly mower is a 55 ford 950 trike