ford 4500tlb parts
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To do all the pins and bushings on your BH would exceed the value of the machine if you went OEM and got from a CNH dealer.
Luckily, I have access to a lathe. So on my ford 5500 and dads 4500, we made our own out of 4140 pre-hardened. Not quite as hard as OEM, but is sufficient.
Whatever you do, I wouldnt go mild steel and certainly avoid brass/bronze bushings.
Both the pins, and the bushings on both our BH's were Rc58-60. And alot of the bushings are actually split bushings. If you dont have a lathe, its going to be expensive no matter what you do, just because of the shear number of them if you plan on doing them all. IIRC, There is 1 bushing in the bucket end of the dipper, and the two bucket pins. The boom to dipper has 3 bushings and a pin. the boom to swing post has 3 bushings and a pin that is threaded with a nut. Then each cylinder has 2 pins, and usually 3 bushings each, and thats 3 cylinders. Then the two swing post pivots, so theres a couple of pins and 4 bushings. And a center pin and a pair of bushings in the swing chain.
So quick count is about 22 bushings and about 15 pins. Expect that to add up around $3k at a ford dealer.
I would find a local shop to price making some for you. But you want some tight tolerances. Almost press fit. Because a few thousandths in each pin, times the number of pins, multiplied over a 15' reach = lots of slop.
Good luck on the endeavor, I faced the same delima when re-doing our BH's. And just couldnt source the parts as nothing was really a standard size or length that could be gotten in a hardened bushing from places like mcmastercarr.
And a tip....a logsplitter makes an awesome horizontal hydraulic press for pressing in/out pins and bushings.
Luckily, I have access to a lathe. So on my ford 5500 and dads 4500, we made our own out of 4140 pre-hardened. Not quite as hard as OEM, but is sufficient.
Whatever you do, I wouldnt go mild steel and certainly avoid brass/bronze bushings.
Both the pins, and the bushings on both our BH's were Rc58-60. And alot of the bushings are actually split bushings. If you dont have a lathe, its going to be expensive no matter what you do, just because of the shear number of them if you plan on doing them all. IIRC, There is 1 bushing in the bucket end of the dipper, and the two bucket pins. The boom to dipper has 3 bushings and a pin. the boom to swing post has 3 bushings and a pin that is threaded with a nut. Then each cylinder has 2 pins, and usually 3 bushings each, and thats 3 cylinders. Then the two swing post pivots, so theres a couple of pins and 4 bushings. And a center pin and a pair of bushings in the swing chain.
So quick count is about 22 bushings and about 15 pins. Expect that to add up around $3k at a ford dealer.
I would find a local shop to price making some for you. But you want some tight tolerances. Almost press fit. Because a few thousandths in each pin, times the number of pins, multiplied over a 15' reach = lots of slop.
Good luck on the endeavor, I faced the same delima when re-doing our BH's. And just couldnt source the parts as nothing was really a standard size or length that could be gotten in a hardened bushing from places like mcmastercarr.
And a tip....a logsplitter makes an awesome horizontal hydraulic press for pressing in/out pins and bushings.
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Paint Valley Equipment might offer the pins you need. I think they sell through a dealer network, but they might be able to help.
paintvalleyequipment.com
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