flatbed painting advice needed

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JohnnyDark

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noob when it comes to paint. plenty of experience with rattle cans.i am going to paint my transcraft flat. i have sandblasted all the rust, lol,and am currently glazing the cancer spots around the holes. any recommendations on paint type and sealers and clear coats and now this is where my eyes start to roll back in my head. looking for easy to apply, tough , and a nice finish. i have a kobalt [lowes] paint gun. thanks for the help. johnny
 
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I have an 87' F350 flatbed that I'm doing a frame-off to. I used POR15 on the frame and flatbed. POR15 says the best surface for this paint is rust after it has been wire-wheeled. Comes in limited colors and is pricey but goes a long way. You can then leave it the original color or paint over it. Lifetime cover for any rust. Totally seals it. Been the gold standard for the classic car industry for decades.
 
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Not sure what type of finish your looking for, is it a dump flat or just regular? My best answer would be DON"T seal the rust in. I can't count the times I've seen a nice looking job done on an old trailer or truck just to have the rust eatting away underneath the top coat of paint/sealer. Sometimes a sealer will cause more trouble then doing nothing at all, it can actually hold condensation against the metal. Metal prep is porbably your most important move when attacking a job like this.
 
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Last summer I cleaned the rust off of the trailer and painted it. Here is how I did it. Note: Amateur at best and no previous experience.

Scaled and wire brushed frame.
Painted with phosphoric acid
Wire brushed
Painted with Phosphoric acid again.
Painted with Rustoleum paint. Two coats.
Applied roofing sealer to undersides as undercoating.

It's only been a few months but so far so good.:D
 

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this a small section of the trailer. 48 foot flat
 

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Last summer I cleaned the rust off of the trailer and painted it. Here is how I did it. Note: Amateur at best and no previous experience.

Scaled and wire brushed frame.
Painted with phosphoric acid
Wire brushed
Painted with Phosphoric acid again.
Painted with Rustoleum paint. Two coats.
Applied roofing sealer to undersides as undercoating.

It's only been a few months but so far so good.:D

I sent 30+ years in the business, and in my opinion, this is probably the best economical way of doing this job.

I would add, I prefer using the Valspar system, because they have an optional hardener. Even though it does complicate the application by requiring personal protective equipment, (which you should be using anyway), it really helps with adhesion, and gloss retention.

The cost of using all quality automotive products can be so high, it is not usually worth it on something that takes a beating, like a trailer does.

The last time I did my flatbed 3 years ago, I used all high end automotive products, it took $600 to buy all the sand blasting media, sandpaper, 2 part glue, 2 part calk, 2 part etching primer, 2 part filler primer, basecoat, clearcoat, and vinyl stone shields. This is a 4x8 trailer, with a wood deck, and the deck was not included.

If you use low end automotive products, it will be cheaper. But my experience is that it really will not last any longer than the industrial enamel, (Rustoleum).
 
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ray66v - whats your experience with the enamel hardener ? I used it on my snowplow for tractor and I like the fact its nice and hard and smooth. Wouldn't this be ideal for trailer frames ? add hardener ?
 
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The hardener is misnamed, it really does not largely effect the finished, (cured), hardness, as much as it converts the paint to a product that has better adhesion, (especially if you use a primer that has hardener, due to something called molecular crosslinkage), and it adds better gloss retention.

The hardener will definitely make the product better for any use.

But, keep in mind hardeners usually contain isocyanates, though most people who use them improperly appear completely unaffected by them, they can cause dangerous sever respiratory allergic reactions, in some individuals. Therefore the proper safety measures must be taken to limit exposure.

Most forget, these products are full of harmful toxic chemicals, and the proper equipment should be used anyway.
 
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if you want a cost effective and simple approach, i've always had good luck with rustoleum rusty metal primer followed by rustoleum paint.

nothing fancy, but it does slow down corrosion and is available almost anywhere, and the price is right.

amp
 

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