Fertilizer for horse pasture

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Tscott9330

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Hello everyone, we seeded our 7 acres about 3 months ago and with all the recent rain in north Florida, we are finally getting some real good growth. We are thinking about fertilizing and can't seem to find anyone who sells in large quantities. They are giving me prices for the yard size bags and telling me I need 10 bags an acre. This works aout to be almost $200 an acre.

What do i need to know?

Is this really the price range I will be looking at?

Where do you get your fertilizer from?

If the above price is out of line, then what should I be paying?

Is there enough benifit from fertilizing a pasture to make it worth my while?

Any help you could give would be really appreciuated.

Thanks,
Tom
 
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I buy my fertilizer by the tonne (2200lbs) in bags of 25Kg (55lbs) per bag. This spring I paid $599 per tonne for 22-20-10. That was after a lot of shopping as prices were all over the place. Last year I think I paid $437 per tonne for 19-19-19. I know prices have gone up since I purchased mine in April. I applied 165lbs per acre so my cost was approx $45/acre. I would not buy fertilizer in small yard sized bags. Look in your local yellow pages for local farm feed stores. They should be able to help you.
 
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If you tell us where you are located someone might have a specific place for you to look.
 
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We are in Keystone Heights, fl. I have called around to a few places in the area, but none carry anyhting in bulk. The local Ace Hardware is where we got our seed from, 60 lb bags I think. They sell 50lb bags of fertilizer for around $20. But they tell me I need 10 bags per acre. Thats 500 lbs an acre which based on the first reply is way too much.

Tom
 
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I have used Urea and Lime for years, seems to do very well.
 
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My hay-man gets his fertilizer in those big square bags that you have to pick up with a forklift. Has to be at least 1500 lbs. Not sure were he gets it but he fertilizes the hay fields I guess. You could also check with area golf courses and see where they get theirs. They definitely don't buy it in 50lb bags.
 
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Tscott9330 said:
But they tell me I need 10 bags per acre.
Tom

First, before paying todays prices for fertilizer, get an analysis of your soil, if you have not already done so. If your soil needs lime, then you may be wasting your money on fertilizer until you get the lime assimilated. The exact mixture and amounts of fertilizer needed all depends on your objectives and your soil analysis.

If you want to grow some hay, that's one thing, if you just want good pasture, that's entirely different.

The only way I know to determine how much you need is through a soil test.

If pasture is your objective, then you may very well not need any fertilizer this year with your good rains. Do you need lime?

All depends on your soil analysis and your objectives....once you've determined those then look for fertilizer, if you need it.
 
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Medowlarkponds is exactly right. Get in touch with the county extension agent for a soil test. He will also know where bulk fertilizer and lime are sold in your area. If there is any farming at all where you live someone is selling in bulk and most likely will apply the material with a spreader truck for you.

MarkV
 
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Fill out your profile and somebody in your area can give you some advice on where to go and who to contact. Here in East Texas, I just go to the local extension office in town and pick up the soil sample bags. They are small, waxed paper sacks with instructions on how to collect the soil. For a basic samply analysis, it's $10 plus the cost to mail it. The report is based on what you plan to grow and will be detailed to exactly what you need to add to the soil to amend it. I was confused on my analysis, but fortunately after posting the results here, I was givng some great advice that made sense to me.

Eddie
 
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First off, NEVER trust a hardware store to tell you how much fertilizer a pasture needs. It is so easy to bring your nitrogen levels well above toxic levels you wouldn't believe it. You can go out one morning to find everyone of your horses dead with their feet sticking straight up in the air. It's even more dangerous to ruminant animals when nitrate levels are high.

You need to find a co-op or agricultural supply center near you. The first one I used here was recommended by the ag extension agent. Since then I've done a lot of shopping around and found a cheaper one that lets us borrow their big spreader for as long as we need it. It holds about 4 tons of nitrogen and they fill it and set it to the rate I need for me so all I have to do is pull it home with the truck then hook it to the tractor and go.

Your fertilizer, if done properly, will get the grass growing fast and tall and really go a long way towards helping it choke out the weeds on it's own. Soil samples are extremely important! Plant analysis should be done also before turning out animals on it unless you set up a rotational grazing system which you should probably do anyway. Horses are real bad about eating to the dirt before moving on and that's not good for any type of grass.
Plus if you have a rotational system, you can graze one section of it and then fertilize another till the grass is tall and nitrate levels are at an acceptable level for them.

We've had our giant Bermuda pasture in operation for three years now. Every month from April untill October we bale most of it for hay. It's 7 acres just like yours. I always temp fence off a small part of it to graze the horses on after it's reached full height and is at least a month after I fertilized it. We cut on a 28 day cycle here. According to our soil samples we require 60 pounds of nitrogen per acre after each cutting and that whole 7 acres only costs me around 300 bucks even at that high level when buying it from a co-op or elevator that caters to farmers, NOT the happy home owner.
60 pounds of Nitrogen is not like one sixty pound bag of some store mix. It means 100 pounds of 60-0-0 per acre. You will have to learn to read your soil analysis. The co-ops here are great about doing it for me. The stuff I usually buy is 46-0-0 and the man at the co-op does all the math for me to figure the proper amount to bring it to a 60 pound per acre amount. I still have a hard time doing that one in my head.

Just be very careful, I'm serious. Call the ag department at your local college, veterinarians, ag extension agent and whoever else you need to verify what I say about the nitrogen being dangerous. It is needed on any grass crop but if you aren't careful you will not have a need for it for long. I highly recommend doing a lot of samples untill you get a good feel for your land especially with the horses.

We have always had horses here. And I board them too. Before I started growing my own hay we had two mysterious horse deaths that my vet blamed on the hay I was buying. One very old horse we had suffered kidney failure and a yearling we had the same thing plus she also had chronic choke. Both were blamed on way too high nitrate levels in the hay we were buying and also dirty mouldy hay. Some hay growers get real carried away with the nitrogen trying to maximize their yield and have no idea what damage they can do with it. I get 80 to 100 bales per acre off my bermuda sticking to the maximum recommended (according to soil analysis) every month and I'm happy with that. I know some morons going all the way up to 100 or 200 pounds of nitrogen though. That's the kind of junk that killed my two horses.

Our soil analysis reports used to have two rates listed on them. I think it was only 20-0-0 with a 7 day withdrawal time for grazing and 60-0-0 for haying with a 28 day withdrawal time for animals and 28 days between cuttings after spreading. We just always wait those times now and have only the haying recommendation listed.
 

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