DAP
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Nov 28, 2001
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- Tractor
- JD LX288 and a B7800
There's been a lot of thread activity here and a lot of auction activity there - all revolving around SCAMing.
Look, as I see it, this gets real simple. A lot of TBNers apparently use eBay for both buying and selling. Voondabaugh.
If you are SERIOUS about selling expensive items on eBay, then don't plan on a pricing schedule that puts ALL of the risk on your potential buyer. This n% upfront and n% later stuff is a sordid attempt at establishing good faith purchasing. The reality of SCAMMERS is as old as the hills and twice as dusty. If I find, let's say a tractor that someone wants to sell and is LEGIT, PRUDENT and FAIR, then I will pay the entire price after some verfication of the item. Done. If the seller don't wanna dance that way, let them find another buyer and me, another tractor (if one actually existed in the first place). People get 'real funny' bout parting with their stuff...seems they should be compensated just cause their willing to sell it.
If you are SERIOUS about buying expensive items on eBay, then protect yourself and only offer payment types that can be protected, lowering your risk while satisfying the LEGITMATE seller.
One of the real problems here is the eBay model itself. For the most part, people are tyring to exploit the model to either a) augment a marketing approach for little or no expenditure; b) try to get sumpin for nuttin i.e. eBay often appears to be the worlds junkyard that it is;
c) prey on the naive, uninformed, or doltheaded public, both legally and illegally for monetary gain and wicked cynical thrills.
I'll go out on a limb and say a lot of folks feel like "well, if they were stupid enough to fall for that gag, then that's their fault". I agree but only to a point. We recognize these tractor scams cause they are so prevelant. Anyone of us geniuses could be the next unwary victim of a new clever scam though, especially in a medium like eBay.
Where eBay falls short in my opinion is that they have not and will not devote enough gray matter to 'protect' the transaction - all for obvious reasons, those being opening the pandora's box of legal issues, arbitration expenses, yadda yadda yadda. "You can use our marketplace to vend your wares, but leave us outta the mix" for the most part. Sure, they'll pull some dubious entries, but for the most part, the original intent was a publically operated marketplace, electronic flea market with little or no intervention or responsbilities.
The truth is that BECAUSE it is an electronic forum and seller and buyer need never actually interact, it explictly injects more risk.
Seems to me eBay should take a little more leadership in protecting it's client base.
At least use the escrow service methinks.
Look, as I see it, this gets real simple. A lot of TBNers apparently use eBay for both buying and selling. Voondabaugh.
If you are SERIOUS about selling expensive items on eBay, then don't plan on a pricing schedule that puts ALL of the risk on your potential buyer. This n% upfront and n% later stuff is a sordid attempt at establishing good faith purchasing. The reality of SCAMMERS is as old as the hills and twice as dusty. If I find, let's say a tractor that someone wants to sell and is LEGIT, PRUDENT and FAIR, then I will pay the entire price after some verfication of the item. Done. If the seller don't wanna dance that way, let them find another buyer and me, another tractor (if one actually existed in the first place). People get 'real funny' bout parting with their stuff...seems they should be compensated just cause their willing to sell it.
If you are SERIOUS about buying expensive items on eBay, then protect yourself and only offer payment types that can be protected, lowering your risk while satisfying the LEGITMATE seller.
One of the real problems here is the eBay model itself. For the most part, people are tyring to exploit the model to either a) augment a marketing approach for little or no expenditure; b) try to get sumpin for nuttin i.e. eBay often appears to be the worlds junkyard that it is;
c) prey on the naive, uninformed, or doltheaded public, both legally and illegally for monetary gain and wicked cynical thrills.
I'll go out on a limb and say a lot of folks feel like "well, if they were stupid enough to fall for that gag, then that's their fault". I agree but only to a point. We recognize these tractor scams cause they are so prevelant. Anyone of us geniuses could be the next unwary victim of a new clever scam though, especially in a medium like eBay.
Where eBay falls short in my opinion is that they have not and will not devote enough gray matter to 'protect' the transaction - all for obvious reasons, those being opening the pandora's box of legal issues, arbitration expenses, yadda yadda yadda. "You can use our marketplace to vend your wares, but leave us outta the mix" for the most part. Sure, they'll pull some dubious entries, but for the most part, the original intent was a publically operated marketplace, electronic flea market with little or no intervention or responsbilities.
The truth is that BECAUSE it is an electronic forum and seller and buyer need never actually interact, it explictly injects more risk.
Seems to me eBay should take a little more leadership in protecting it's client base.
At least use the escrow service methinks.
