E85 for American Fuel Independence !

[Terry1040]

I have burned 10,000 gallons or more of E85 in my personal vehicles. If all AMERICANS would do this we could spend our $ in the US with American companies and with American farmers. This is about clean emissions and clean air also. This is NOT about food vs fuel. We have an oversupply of corn in US (and in China). Fuel prices are cheap, and E85 is cheap also. If your retailer does not offer correct pricing on E85 (Under E10 by about 30 cents a gallon) then pressure them to price their E85 in the market. If priced correctly others will use it. I personally do not care about MPG. The best MPG is about E30, but the benefits to the American economy far outweigh the little bit of MPG difference. Ethanol today and vehicles today are different than they were 15 years ago. Please vote for E85 when you buy fuel ! PS - Merry Christmas from Nebraska !

 

[davesl708]

Far more people in the USA work in and for the oil industry than the ethanol industry. The US produces more oil than it needs now. So how will getting rid of gasoline and putting all those people out of work help the US economy?

 

[Terry1040]

Far more people in the USA work in and for the oil industry than the ethanol industry. The US produces more oil than it needs now. So how will getting rid of gasoline and putting all those people out of work help the US economy?

Yes, we have a lot of people employed in the oil industry. There is room for everyone & in fact when prices go up we will again be looking for new oil supplies in the US. The price of oil has slowed down the search for new oil, but other than that I don't believe any people have gone out of work. The ethanol industry is good for America & employees lots of people in mid America, including Kansas & Nebraska.

 

[Green Power]

I have burned 10,000 gallons or more of E85 in my personal vehicles. If all AMERICANS would do this we could spend our $ in the US with American companies and with American farmers. This is about clean emissions and clean air also. This is NOT about food vs fuel. We have an oversupply of corn in US (and in China). Fuel prices are cheap, and E85 is cheap also. If your retailer does not offer correct pricing on E85 (Under E10 by about 30 cents a gallon) then pressure them to price their E85 in the market. If priced correctly others will use it. I personally do not care about MPG. The best MPG is about E30, but the benefits to the American economy far outweigh the little bit of MPG difference. Ethanol today and vehicles today are different than they were 15 years ago. Please vote for E85 when you buy fuel ! PS - Merry Christmas from Nebraska !

Very well said.

 

[CalG]

Ethanol from corn?

Do you want me to thank you for using my tax dollars to float your "fuel independence" barge?

There is NO good reason to use corn to produce fuel when it costs $1.25 to sell for a buck.

Stupid!

 

[oliver1555]

The price of oil has slowed down the search for new oil, but other than that I don't believe any people have gone out of work. The ethanol industry is good for America & employees lots of people in mid America, including Kansas & Nebraska.

The low price of oil has put thousands out of work. Go to the oil patch and look at all of the contractors who have equipment sitting around doing nothing. Contractors are relied upon heavily by the oil industry, so the effects are widespread. I avoid ethanol when I can. It might be good for corn producers, but is not good for feeders. I guess it just depends on whose ox is being gored. I don't like it when it's mine.

 

[Green Power]

The low price of oil has put thousands out of work. Go to the oil patch and look at all of the contractors who have equipment sitting around doing nothing. Contractors are relied upon heavily by the oil industry, so the effects are widespread. I avoid ethanol when I can. It might be good for corn producers, but is not good for feeders. I guess it just depends on whose ox is being gored. I don't like it when it's mine.

Their is such an oversupply of corn right now, It wouldnt lower feed prices much, it would just force many farmers to change which crops they grow.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Wish they would do away with ethanol fuel. Nothing green about it.

 

[texas42]

All ethanol fuel really is, is a subsidy to the corn industry.
My car can't use E85, the people that make my chainsaw, weedeater, backpack blower, zero turn mower and other small engines warn against E85. Can't use it in my Harley.
My truck is a diesel, so I have no use for E85.
When you think of all the petroleum products it takes to grow corn, how green can it really be?

 

[dstig1]

I'm afraid it is more fantasy than fact. Corn to ethanol is a pretty inefficient way of making a fuel. Plus corn is a much better food than a fuel source. If "everyone" went to E85 as you implore, then food prices would go through the roof in an instant. As to your argument about fuel independence, the fracking boom has done far more to change the balance in that equation than ethanol could ever do. Now there is Brazil... A very different situation. They create ethanol from sugar cane. This is a much more direct and less energy intensive method of making ethanol than the corn route. And therefore it actually makes sense. Sugar cane to ethanol? Sure! Corn to ethanol? Nothing but crony capitalism, frankly, as it does not make economic sense. If the SHTF and world oil is no longer being transported, the US could crank up enough fracking capacity to cover within a couple years, I bet. It has improved so much over the past few years, that it would be foolish to bet against it improving a bunch more in the next several years. Eventually that will run out, but it is still quite a young technology.

OP - I'm afraid to point out that you sound like the crony capitalists that are making money from the government mandates and subsidies around corn ethanol....