Backhoe DK 35 Backhoe removal
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Get your backhoe to where you want to drop it, put the stailizers down, put the bucket down on the ground and adjust the levers to take the pressure off of the pins holding the BH on.
Remove the pins and carefull pull the tractor forward just enough to separate from the BH without pulling on the hydro hoses.
Now shut off the tractor, move the loader joystick around, and the BH levers around to release all the pressure in the lines. Now you can safely disconnect the BH hoses. If you don't release the pressure, when you go to hook back up, you'll have a hard time getting the quick disconnects back on.
With the hoses disconnected, you can restart the tractor and drive off.
John
Remove the pins and carefull pull the tractor forward just enough to separate from the BH without pulling on the hydro hoses.
Now shut off the tractor, move the loader joystick around, and the BH levers around to release all the pressure in the lines. Now you can safely disconnect the BH hoses. If you don't release the pressure, when you go to hook back up, you'll have a hard time getting the quick disconnects back on.
With the hoses disconnected, you can restart the tractor and drive off.
John
KEROSENEDRVR
Bronze Member
How wobbily is the unit when you drive away? Do I need to worry about it blowing over or falling on my kids?
How about reinstalling the unit? Whats the procedure for getting everything linedup up?
How about reinstalling the unit? Whats the procedure for getting everything linedup up?
I think you should have titled this Backhoe installation/removal! LOL
I sit my BH down on a heavy pallet with the stabilizers down and just before you disconnect the hoses ( I forgot to tell you this part)
lower the backhoe and subframe down all the way. It will be stabil then. Then shut off the tractor, release the pressure on the hoses and disconnect, move away from the tractor.
To reconnect, simply back straight up over the subframe to just before where it slides into the rear bracket. You'll need room to raise it up to the bracket. Now turn off the tractor, release the pressure by moving the loader joystick around until there's no loader movement, hook up the hoses, restart the tractor and adjust the stabilizers and bucket to level the subframe to the hooks and back up the tractor to put the subframe into the mounts. It takes a little practice, but it's not difficult. Put the pins in the subframe and raise the BH boom up, you're ready to go. The most difficult part is usually just getting the subframe at the right level for backing into the mounts.
John
I sit my BH down on a heavy pallet with the stabilizers down and just before you disconnect the hoses ( I forgot to tell you this part)
lower the backhoe and subframe down all the way. It will be stabil then. Then shut off the tractor, release the pressure on the hoses and disconnect, move away from the tractor.
To reconnect, simply back straight up over the subframe to just before where it slides into the rear bracket. You'll need room to raise it up to the bracket. Now turn off the tractor, release the pressure by moving the loader joystick around until there's no loader movement, hook up the hoses, restart the tractor and adjust the stabilizers and bucket to level the subframe to the hooks and back up the tractor to put the subframe into the mounts. It takes a little practice, but it's not difficult. Put the pins in the subframe and raise the BH boom up, you're ready to go. The most difficult part is usually just getting the subframe at the right level for backing into the mounts.
John
rcrcomputing
Platinum Member
Should you not put blocks under the bh to keep it up to make re-attachment easier?
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Should you not put blocks under the bh to keep it up to make re-attachment easier? )</font>
I don't use any, and see no reason for it since after you hook up the hoses, you set the backhoe where you want it by using the control levers. Very easy, and not a lot of extra equipment necessary.
John
I don't use any, and see no reason for it since after you hook up the hoses, you set the backhoe where you want it by using the control levers. Very easy, and not a lot of extra equipment necessary.
John
psuedofarmer
Gold Member
<font color="blue"> Should you not put blocks under the bh to keep it up to make re-attachment easier?
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i use a few old tires, helps raise up the unit to where i can easiliy re-install.
and if you happen to relieve the pressure (as KiotiJohn pointed out, just move the joysticks around prior to removing the hoses), you'll need channel locks to relieve the pressure on the valves (DO NOT look into the valve as you release the pressure.. and be ready to have a small hydo fluid hand wash).
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i use a few old tires, helps raise up the unit to where i can easiliy re-install.
and if you happen to relieve the pressure (as KiotiJohn pointed out, just move the joysticks around prior to removing the hoses), you'll need channel locks to relieve the pressure on the valves (DO NOT look into the valve as you release the pressure.. and be ready to have a small hydo fluid hand wash).
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<font color="blue"> Should you not put blocks under the bh to keep it up to make re-attachment easier? </font>
I use a hydraulic car jack to relieve pressure on the pins and then separate the BH from the tractor. Then I use jack stands and a piece of 4x4 to rest it on after separation. (See attachment.)
I use a hydraulic car jack to relieve pressure on the pins and then separate the BH from the tractor. Then I use jack stands and a piece of 4x4 to rest it on after separation. (See attachment.)
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KEROSENEDRVR
Bronze Member
How about the stability of the parked BH unit. I've got little ones that, like their mom, seem to get into everything. Will they knock it over? I need to have the BH secure to prevent an injury.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( and if you happen to relieve the pressure (as KiotiJohn pointed out, just move the joysticks around prior to removing the hoses), you'll need channel locks to relieve the pressure on the valves (DO NOT look into the valve as you release the pressure.. and be ready to have a small hydo fluid hand wash). )</font>
Did you mean to say, "If you happen NOT to relieve the pressure...?
John
Did you mean to say, "If you happen NOT to relieve the pressure...?
John
rcrcomputing
Platinum Member
Am about to do this in a few minutes. I'm having one of those "moments". Though I don't see you guys mention it, and the bh manual does not mention it, it seems my dealer said something about a knob to turn after you remove the bh. Or the FEL won't work. Am I crazy? I remember the know thing because the dealer said it was a thing to turn with your wrench and he made a knob to go on it for me.
depratt_equip
Platinum Member
Ya on the CK30's and CK25's there is a screw knob that you HAVE to turn when you take the BH off. If you don't then the tractor will keep trying to push fluid to the outlets and will cause alot of pressure and possible damage to the pumps. If you don't turn the knob you know when you start it up from the sound the tractor would make, kinda like if you have aux hydraulics on a tractor and you start your tractor with the rear remote in the detent position. From Kioti there is no knob on this valve, we machined one to make it easier to turn.
rcrcomputing
Platinum Member
I'm unhooked. I decided to take a break and come see if I got an answer yet. Low and behold. Hi Jon! You's muh dealer that put that knob on. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
What's that other little black knob right next to it?
I also notice the telescopic stablizer is unhooked and pushed out of the way. Will I have to do that next time I hook up the bh?
What's that other little black knob right next to it?
I also notice the telescopic stablizer is unhooked and pushed out of the way. Will I have to do that next time I hook up the bh?
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As an aid for the rest of us memory challenged, how about a pic of where this "knob" is located?
Thanx
David
Thanx
David
I forgot to mention that, sorry. I have a different setup on my CK20, just a small lever on top of the valve that must be moved from 6:00 position to 3:00 when hooking up the BH. I have to move it back to 6 after disconnecting, or the tractor sounds as though it can hardly run, and the loader won't move.
I'm glad Jon posted in an answer, as I have been unable to get into the forum for about 24 hours.
John
I'm glad Jon posted in an answer, as I have been unable to get into the forum for about 24 hours.
John
KEROSENEDRVR
Bronze Member
On my DK35 I have a lever. The lever is marked A/neutral/B. I understand the lever engages the hydaulic pump which allows the BH to operate. What is the difference between the A and B positions? Secondly, if I were going to drive my tractor a distance of 2 miles in high gear, should the pump lever be in neutral?
depratt_equip
Platinum Member
Other little black knob???.... hrmm... thinking.... I don't remember another knob being under there... Are you talking about the black knob on the operator’s platform? That would be the speed control knob for the 3 pt, but that knob is right below the operator’s seat.
It helps to have the 3pt out of the way when hooking up the BH, that is probably why the 3pt stabilizers were pushed to the side.
It helps to have the 3pt out of the way when hooking up the BH, that is probably why the 3pt stabilizers were pushed to the side.
depratt_equip
Platinum Member
The 2 ports on the backside of your DK35 are labeled “A” and one is “B”. If you put the control lever that is next to the seat in the B position, then pressure goes though the B port on the backside of the tractor and the return is though the A port. And it is just the opposite if the lever is in the other position.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Secondly, if I were going to drive my tractor a distance of 2 miles in high gear, should the pump lever be in neutral?
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It doesn't have to be, the fluid will still run in a complete loop while driving.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Secondly, if I were going to drive my tractor a distance of 2 miles in high gear, should the pump lever be in neutral?
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It doesn't have to be, the fluid will still run in a complete loop while driving.
