Different Hydraulic oils and such

[MDA59]

I have a couple of questions. I have been using a 20w hydraulic oil in my Branson 2400 2016 as was recommended by the local NAPA last year when my Hydraulic hose busted and I needed to add more oil. Well being a novice I added this to the system and it has run ok. Of course did not really research this just took the word of NAPA and some mechanics at work.
Fast forward to now. I got a hole in my oil cooler and lost about two quarts this past week. Well after researching i have found out that I need a Branson Origin oil which is comparable to Mobile Fluid 424 30w.
My questions are:
I have I messed anything up? It still runs good (hydraulics)
Should I get the 424 oil, drain the old oil and replace with 424 without changing filter?
change out filter, drain old. and replace with 424?
Just continue running on the 20w oil that is still in there? I did top it off after changing out the oil cooler yesterday.
Thanks for any info

 

[big bubba]

curious as to the hole in the oil cooler. run into something? glad no damage resulted.
personally, i'd drain the system & replace w/recommended factory fluid w/oem filter. regards

 

[LouNY]

OK, lets see what we have here;
A 2016 tractor so 7 years old, and I see it's a hydrostatic drive tractor.
My first question is how often have the hydraulic and transmission filters been changed?

Ignoring that; you should be using a multi-purpose hydraulic transmission fluid meeting or exceeding the manufactures requirements.
Which in my Branson's manual is Texaco TDH oil,
which will cross reference to many transmission/hydraulic fluids;
Such as;

Gulf Transcrest Multifunctional JD J20C Tractor Hydraulic Fluid​

Mobilfluid 424 Tractor Hydraulic Tractor Transmission Fluid
Kendall Hyken 052 Farm Tractor Drivetrain Hydraulic Lubricant
Phillips 66 PowerTran Fluid J20C Farm Tractor Drivetrain Hydraulic Fluid

Chevron​

1000 THF Hydraulic Fluid​

• as a multifunctional fluid in many types of farm tractors and equipment
• in applications which call for the following OEM lubricant specifications:
  • AGCO — improved power fluid 821XL
  • Case Corporation — JIC-143, JIC-145,MS 1206, MS 1207, MS 1209, MS 1210 (TCH)
  • Case New Holland — MAT 3525, MAT 3505
  • Caterpillar TO-2
  • Ford New Holland — ESN-M2C134-D, FNHA 2C 201
  • International Harvester B6
  • John Deere — J20C
  • Kubota UDT
  • Massey Ferguson — M1135, M1141, M1143, M1145
  • Minneapolis-Moline — Q-1766, Q-1722, Q-1766B
  • Oliver — Q-1705
  • Renk Doromat — 874A and 874B
  • Volvo WB 101
  • White Farm Equipment — Q-1826
  • ZF — TE-ML 03E, TE-ML 05F, TE-ML 06K, TE-ML 17E, TE-ML 21F

The next step up are the synthetics which meet and exceed the most current specs.

 

[MDA59]

OK, lets see what we have here;
A 2016 tractor so 7 years old, and I see it's a hydrostatic drive tractor.
My first question is how often have the hydraulic and transmission filters been changed?

Ignoring that; you should be using a multi-purpose hydraulic transmission fluid meeting or exceeding the manufactures requirements.
Which in my Branson's manual is Texaco TDH oil,
which will cross reference to many transmission/hydraulic fluids;
Such as;

Gulf Transcrest Multifunctional JD J20C Tractor Hydraulic Fluid​

Mobilfluid 424 Tractor Hydraulic Tractor Transmission Fluid
Kendall Hyken 052 Farm Tractor Drivetrain Hydraulic Lubricant
Phillips 66 PowerTran Fluid J20C Farm Tractor Drivetrain Hydraulic Fluid

Chevron​

1000 THF Hydraulic Fluid​

• as a multifunctional fluid in many types of farm tractors and equipment
• in applications which call for the following OEM lubricant specifications:
  • AGCO — improved power fluid 821XL
  • Case Corporation — JIC-143, JIC-145,MS 1206, MS 1207, MS 1209, MS 1210 (TCH)
  • Case New Holland — MAT 3525, MAT 3505
  • Caterpillar TO-2
  • Ford New Holland — ESN-M2C134-D, FNHA 2C 201
  • International Harvester B6
  • John Deere — J20C
  • Kubota UDT
  • Massey Ferguson — M1135, M1141, M1143, M1145
  • Minneapolis-Moline — Q-1766, Q-1722, Q-1766B
  • Oliver — Q-1705
  • Renk Doromat — 874A and 874B
  • Volvo WB 101
  • White Farm Equipment — Q-1826
  • ZF — TE-ML 03E, TE-ML 05F, TE-ML 06K, TE-ML 17E, TE-ML 21F

The next step up are the synthetics which meet and exceed the most current specs.

Havent changed the filters, yep Mobile 424 is what I ordered. Thanks for the reply

 

[MDA59]

curious as to the hole in the oil cooler. run into something? glad no damage resulted.
personally, i'd drain the system & replace w/recommended factory fluid w/oem filter. regards

First cooler I changed out last year the battery come loose and poked a hole in it. The second on I just changed out got a crack in the seam (I do not know what caused that)

 

[MDA59]

OK, lets see what we have here;
A 2016 tractor so 7 years old, and I see it's a hydrostatic drive tractor.
My first question is how often have the hydraulic and transmission filters been changed?

Ignoring that; you should be using a multi-purpose hydraulic transmission fluid meeting or exceeding the manufactures requirements.
Which in my Branson's manual is Texaco TDH oil,
which will cross reference to many transmission/hydraulic fluids;
Such as;

Gulf Transcrest Multifunctional JD J20C Tractor Hydraulic Fluid​

Mobilfluid 424 Tractor Hydraulic Tractor Transmission Fluid
Kendall Hyken 052 Farm Tractor Drivetrain Hydraulic Lubricant
Phillips 66 PowerTran Fluid J20C Farm Tractor Drivetrain Hydraulic Fluid

Chevron​

1000 THF Hydraulic Fluid​

• as a multifunctional fluid in many types of farm tractors and equipment
• in applications which call for the following OEM lubricant specifications:
  • AGCO — improved power fluid 821XL
  • Case Corporation — JIC-143, JIC-145,MS 1206, MS 1207, MS 1209, MS 1210 (TCH)
  • Case New Holland — MAT 3525, MAT 3505
  • Caterpillar TO-2
  • Ford New Holland — ESN-M2C134-D, FNHA 2C 201
  • International Harvester B6
  • John Deere — J20C
  • Kubota UDT
  • Massey Ferguson — M1135, M1141, M1143, M1145
  • Minneapolis-Moline — Q-1766, Q-1722, Q-1766B
  • Oliver — Q-1705
  • Renk Doromat — 874A and 874B
  • Volvo WB 101
  • White Farm Equipment — Q-1826
  • ZF — TE-ML 03E, TE-ML 05F, TE-ML 06K, TE-ML 17E, TE-ML 21F

The next step up are the synthetics which meet and exceed the most current specs.

The filter did get changed out the 50 hour mark

 

[big bubba]

First cooler I changed out last year the battery come loose and poked a hole in it. The second on I just changed out got a crack in the seam (I do not know what caused that)

glad you caught it. welcome to the forum btw

 

[MDA59]

glad you caught it. welcome to the forum btw

yes me to and thanks

 

[oldnslo]

MDA
Not sure where you are located but on my 2400H I had problems using 424 in cold weather. Tranny would whine and blew HST filter once. I switched to a mix of Deere low viscosity Hy Gard and standard Hy Gard. From memory 1 gallon low vis and rest standard hy gard. Been that way for over 750 hrs now with no issues in cold or hot weather.

Hy Gard was very similar in price to the 424.

I think mine is a 2014 or 15.

 

[Redlands Okie]

Figure up the cost of a new transmission and or pump or a new tractor and it all ways makes me wonder why so many people try to save a few dollars while risking the potential loss. They knowingly do it, amazing.
In your case you did not know, but now that you know what you should be using go ahead and change the fluid and filters out as soon as possible.