Differences between kero,#1diesel, and jet fuel

[diesel lover]

I was just wanting a more broken down explanation to the difference between these. I have heard way too much that number one diesel and kerosene are about the same. I believe kerosene has less lubricating qualities to fuel systems and has less btu of energy/ heat per gallon.
I have been interested in different diesel found right at the fuel pump. The main two are winter blend and summer blend. Winter blend is no 1 and 2 diesel fuel mixed together. If it is near or below 0F outside is there anything wrong with blending kerosene to number 2 diesel fuel to get fuel that has a lower cloud point etc? The main issues I see is lower lubricant amount for the fuel system, and obviously less energy in the fuel so power loss from the engine.

What's the difference between jet fuel and kerosene? Some people run jet fuel in Diesel engines. The military runs jp8 in their equipment

 

[diesel lover]

Oh and is there a difference between kerosene purchased on the shelf of a store or kerosene purchased at the pump?

 

[DeereMann]

ASTM & API administer the definitions & requirements of these.

Without dredging these cumbersome documents up, the general difference between diesel fuels, heating fuels, jet fuels, etc., is the petroleum distillation curve start/stop points, and additive.s

I have preached a number of times these are NOT the same, & you have to know what you are doing to consider substitutes. Those that don't spend the time to research should not consider substituting.

Military JPx fuels are, in general, very low lubricity fuels than need heavy additization for use in compression ignition reciprocating engines. They are ok for gas turbine (jet) engines, though.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

The Vietnam era military multi-fuel trucks could burn just about any fuel from JP down to at that time #3 diesel (no longer made). Diesel of that era was not low sulfur. The instruction manual stated and they had tables for adding lube oil to kerosene and the jet fuels to assure pump and injector lubrication. Only the Vietnamese had kerosene. They ran best and had more power on diesel. I heard stories of adding small amounts of gasoline and mixing crankcase drainings but never verified. Others were considered emergency only. Where I was we never ran out of diesel and we used a lot in our construction equipment and motor pool (Seabees). We used diesel for a lot of things not related to engines; wood preservative (Termites did not like it), galley stoves and ovens, and to burn the accumulations in the heads (latrines to you army guys). It kept the mosquitoes away also so we oiled the decks (floors) in the hootches. Made them easier to sweep also. A little sea story (army-war story) there.

Ron

Ron

 

[Tractor Seabee]

The Vietnam era military multi-fuel trucks could burn just about any fuel from JP down to at that time #3 diesel (no longer made). Diesel of that era was not low sulfur. The instruction manual stated and they had tables for adding lube oil to kerosene and the jet fuels to assure pump and injector lubrication. Only the Vietnamese had kerosene. They ran best and had more power on diesel. I heard stories of adding small amounts of gasoline and mixing crankcase drainings but never verified. Others were considered emergency only. Where I was we never ran out of diesel and we used a lot in our construction equipment and motor pool (Seabees). We used diesel for a lot of things not related to engines; wood preservative (Termites did not like it), galley stoves and ovens, and to burn the accumulations in the heads (latrines to you army guys). It kept the mosquitoes away also so we oiled the decks (floors) in the hootches. Made them easier to sweep also. A little sea story (army-war story) there.

Ron

Ron

 

[diesel lover]

Thank you guys very good information! I know a good amount of information about turbine engines as well. They can burn different fuel types but to my understanding the air lines only burn jet fuels to make sure they are processed and have no chance of fuel issues several feet in the air!! It's very different between a vehicle that travels on the road and one that travels in the air!

 

[Jerry/MT]

I was just wanting a more broken down explanation to the difference between these. I have heard way too much that number one diesel and kerosene are about the same. I believe kerosene has less lubricating qualities to fuel systems and has less btu of energy/ heat per gallon.
I have been interested in different diesel found right at the fuel pump. The main two are winter blend and summer blend. Winter blend is no 1 and 2 diesel fuel mixed together. If it is near or below 0F outside is there anything wrong with blending kerosene to number 2 diesel fuel to get fuel that has a lower cloud point etc? The main issues I see is lower lubricant amount for the fuel system, and obviously less energy in the fuel so power loss from the engine.

What's the difference between jet fuel and kerosene? Some people run jet fuel in Diesel engines. The military runs jp8 in their equipment

Difference in the lower heating value of the fuel merely means it takes more fuel flow to develop a given power. As long as the fuel control has the ability of delver more fuel, the power output will not be affected.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I STILL have not got my Kerosene heater going. It's as if the (OLD) kerosene in there, no longer burns.

So my question is, what is it in Kerosene that gives it its flamability? Does it disipate with time? Can one refresh kerosene with some addititive? What about cetane boost?

 

[diesel lover]

I STILL have not got my Kerosene heater going. It's as if the (OLD) kerosene in there, no longer burns. So my question is, what is it in Kerosene that gives it its flamability? Does it disipate with time? Can one refresh kerosene with some addititive? What about cetane boost?

What I did with my salamander which is the same model as yours is I removed the old fuel, added half a gallon of new kerosene and removed all I could. Then I added filled it with fresh kerosene from the pump it's working so great !! I bought it used !

Industrial you really need to SEE this video. Same video as your heater!! http://youtu.be/ve0nzByP6S

All the information you needed to learn about your heater. They have a spark plug that could have gone bad on your heater or yours needs new filters and adjusted good luck

 

[diesel lover]

Also I added a special kerosene heater additive to remove water and add scent, plus it cleans the system out!!