Diesel 2?

[avorancher]

What the heck is "diesel 2" fuel. I went to the local gas station to fill up my diesel can yesterday and they had a sign saying they now had "diesel 2" and it was priced at $2.49 a gallon.

Is this some sort of scam to keep the price from going back down like gasoline is? Gas went from $2.45 to $2.15 within the last couple weeks, but diesel remains at it's highest level of $2.49.

 

[Cliff_Johns]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( What the heck is "diesel 2" fuel. )</font>

I would assume this is just another way of saying "number 2 diesel" which is another way of saying diesel fuel for trucks and tractors. If this is correct, then "Diesel 1" would be number 1 diesel and would be another name for kerosene.

Cliff

 

[cowboydoc]

#2 diesel is winter blend. It's usually mixed with kerosene to prevent gelling.

 

[avorancher]

Makes sense.... winterizing diesel here where it never freezes. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[Cliff_Johns]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( #2 diesel is winter blend. It's usually mixed with kerosene to prevent gelling. )</font>

OK, if #2 is winter blend, and #1 is kerosene, then what is the standard diesel you get in the summer?

Cliff

 

[weedsportpete]

Yeah, I'm kind of fuzzy about this also. Over the last couple of years I've seen various bits of info on diesel, can someone sum it up?

The difference between diesel and kerosene? Between diesel and jetfuel? Between these and home heating oil?

What artificial coloring is added to which one, and why? Which one is taxed and which is not?

Between summer and winter? Between what you can put in cars, or which one in tractor trailers, or which one in tractors? Which ones can you safely interchange - is one variation more pure? or has different additives? And if it makes a difference, where can you get them?

The station I go to has three flavors of gasoline, kerosene, #2 diesel and 'some other diesel' that tractor trailers fill with - but the spigots on those diesel pumps don't fit into the portable diesel containers I use for the #2 diesel - are the spigot sizes standardized to avoid mistakes? But why if they are really the same stuff?

Thanks!!

 

[virgil]

Cowboydoc said that the #2 was a winter blend. I thought that the #1 was the winter blend...Its been many years since I was up there in the dangerous cold weather.. he is probably right.

anyway, the "winter blend" is mixed with kerosene, and it will have a much higher price on it. The winter blend will prevent the fuel from turning into "jello" during severe cold.

Down here we never see the winter blend.

The red diesel (down here)is for off road and farm fuell. no differance in the fuel except for the color and the tax. The State Comptroller is pretty good and showing up at livestock auctions, and construction sights and dipping their stick into the fuell tanks of pickups....Better not have red fuel in a vehicle that travels a public road.

Now tell me this... Diesel is among the first things you get when you start cracking crude. I thought it was much less refined that gasoline... then why is it higher than gas????

 

[thcri]

I guess I just have always gone to the pump and bought what was there. But I was on the understanding that #2 diesel is what we used in the summer but #1 was what you may find in the winter. The number #1 actually burned warmer and was to hot for the summer? Obviously I am wrong and will watch this thread for more learning.


murph

 

[cowboydoc]

<font color="red">winterizing diesel here where it never freezes </font>

It may not freeze for you but what about the trucker filling up and heading north?

As far as diesel goes #1 is usually a lighter fuel that is mixed about 70/30. You usually don't use it for vehicles. #2 is different depending on the season. In the winter it's usually winterized, diesel with a little kerosene. In the summer and non-freezing months it's just regular diesel. This is where people get confused.

The dyed fuel is rarely, if ever, available at the pumps. When you pay if you have refer fuel, generator, etc. then you sign a tax exempt form at the checkout and they take the taxes off. Dyed fuel is usually just delivered fuel. In our area it is the EXACT same diesel as you get at the pump. They just have a tank that they dump the red dye into.

 

[cowboydoc]

They aren't the same stuff. Kerosene is a much lighter fuel, has a much lower cetane rating, and is NOT a good thing to run in a diesel engine except when cut a little bit into diesel. Your home heating fuel often is the same as kerosene or diesel depending on what kind of furnace that you have. Most of the time the ones I've been around are kerosene. I'm not sure about ones in the east though. Primarily in the west and in the midwest all of the furnaces run on natural gas or propane.

Jetfuel is a completely different product that is similiar to gasoline.