Dealers passing old inventory as new

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tractorslinger

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John Deere 4410 w 430 loader and 72" Deck/Case IH 245/Ford 9N/X324
Dealer here in Indiana.

Just wanted to make everyone aware of a growing trend I see around the country. I am seeing more and more dealers passing off old inventory as new. In the past week, I've ran up agaist this three times. I dont see this on 1 series, or 2 series very often, but when you get into the 3000 and 4000 series thats where this happens. Prices have changed dramaticly in the past couple years mainly due the EPA regulations. With all that said, there are ways to check the year on tractors. The best way is to get the serial number and check the serial number on the JDParts website. This can be hard to do. Sometimes the dealer will not give you a serial number. They claim they are ordering the tractor from the factory. If this is the case, get a quote from the dealer. You can then take the order codes from the quote and be sure they match with JD Configuator on deere.com

Not trying to bash all dealers here, but there are a couple that are making it unfair for all of us out here. You cant compare apples to apples when you have a 1-2 year gap in the machine. Any questions, or if you feel this is or has happend to you let me know and I can check the serial number.
 
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Rather than say passing off old as new, I think you mean passing off non current as current, or past models as the latest models. Sounds like tractors are getting like phones and computers.
 
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In some cases you want the older one. I wanted a 5101E but they were all gone. I got a 5093e because it is a tier 3 engine. That will be hitting the 4xxx soon.

D.
 
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Thats fine as long as you are aware. I am speaking of dealers that tell a customer its a 2013 being ordered from the factory, but they are actually 2011s sitting on the lot.
 
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Yeah - that isn't cool. I look at the paint fade on the wheels.

D.
 
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Just one more thing for the buyer to beware of.
 
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With all that said, there are ways to check the year on tractors. The best way is to get the serial number and check the serial number on the JDParts website. .

I use the JDParts.com site frequently but have never seen where I can get the year of the tractor form the serial number. How do you do that?
 
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I don't know if it applies to any other Deere equipment, but my '11 'R had a serial number tag zip tied to the ROPS with the date of manufacture on it. My H120 FEL has a "DOM" on it, but the 54D and 54QH do not. I don't see what the big deal is.

I think tractorslinger is jealous or something that somebody is beating his prices. So what if a tractor has sit in a sealed warehouse for a year and a half? So what if the dealer has written off a years worth of floor plan payments on it? So what if a dealer is able to offer the same model cheaper than the next dealer over?

Consumers are always seeking the cheapest price on their purchases. Take two similar tractors, one is "thousands less", there will be buyers lined up around the block for it. Really... If all customers were holding out for the best, there would be no orange, red, or blue tractors sold ever!
 
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I don't know if it applies to any other Deere equipment, but my '11 'R had a serial number tag zip tied to the ROPS with the date of manufacture on it. My H120 FEL has a "DOM" on it, but the 54D and 54QH do not. I don't see what the big deal is.

I think tractorslinger is jealous or something that somebody is beating his prices. So what if a tractor has sit in a sealed warehouse for a year and a half? So what if the dealer has written off a years worth of floor plan payments on it? So what if a dealer is able to offer the same model cheaper than the next dealer over?

Consumers are always seeking the cheapest price on their purchases. Take two similar tractors, one is "thousands less", there will be buyers lined up around the block for it. Really... If all customers were holding out for the best, there would be no orange, red, or blue tractors sold ever!

So you're saying its alright to lie to consumers? This has nothing to do with price. I'm the cheapest dealer in the US. Ask anybody on this site or anywhere else. I ship more tractors across the US from Alaska to California. What Im warning agaist is a dealer telling a customer they are getting a 2013 model and they get a 2011 model. This has to do with doing whats right. I know thats pretty hard to find anymore, but telling customers they are getting a 2013 tractor, when they are actually getting a 2011 is not right. Hard to believe anyone would disagree with that.
Not only are they getting a machine that is sitting OUTSIDE (find a dealer that puts tractors indoors, most sit outside. Don't fool yourself), they are getting different options than what the current model year may have. I have no problem if the consumer knows they are getting an older model, more power to you if you can save money.

In regards to "Consumers want the chepest price". There is some truth to this, but customers also want service, and don't want to be lied to. If it was all about price, you wouldnt be looking at John Deere.
 
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I use the JDParts.com site frequently but have never seen where I can get the year of the tractor form the serial number. How do you do that?

My fault, it actually only shows on the dealer end of jdparts.com Thanks
 

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