Comparison D110 vs X304

   / D110 vs X304 #1  

darkelf1217

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Hi,

I'm a newbie to riding mowers so I'm just trying to figure out what to get. I have .5 acres with small hills/slopes and right now takes me 2.5-3 hours to mow with a 22" mower. I'm looking to upgrade to a riding mower. I've been looking at the D110 and the X304. The dealer tells me that the D110 will last around 7 years with high maintenance costs (2 year warranty) vs 15-20 for the X304 and lower maintenance costs (4 year warranty). Is this true? I really don't want to spend over $3k for the mower but I don't know what the right thing to do. Would the X304 be overkill for .5 acres?

Thanks,
Sam
 
   / D110 vs X304 #2  
pass on the 100 series. Theyre big box specials.

x300's would be the first "True" deere IMHO.

Do you need 4ws? What about the x320 with the bigger 54 deck?

I have a x540. The 54" deck is a REAL timesaver. Excellent mower, lots of power and comfort. But its alot more money than a 300 series.

How bad are your hills? I have pretty severe hills. The 540 has a Diff lock and it makes a huge difference in the climbing ability of the machine. It was the main reason i went to that machine.
 
   / D110 vs X304
  • Thread Starter
#3  
I have quite a bit of trees in my property so I was thinking the 4WS would be better. I think the 54" deck is just too wide for my property. The only reason I've been looking at the 100 series is the cost. Cost goes up significantly when you look at the X304 compared to the D110.

The hills aren't too bad. Just slow gradual slopes.
 
   / D110 vs X304 #4  
I have some fairly close trees to mow around. Believe it or not the 54 is helpful as it lets you get closer to trees and buildings (edging). Assuming you have at least 54-60" between the trees you should be ok. I have a couple that i cant go around ~45" between, so i stick the nose of the tractor thru from each side, then come back and trim up with the trimmer or push mower.

The 540 at least will trim pretty tight around a 12" dia tree. Considering its a hydro, so backing up is a non-issue if you have to get closer, id save money and either get the 300 with a 48? or apply it towards a bigger deck.

Gradual slopes, you should be ok.

re: cost, the 300s are significantly better than the 100's IMHO. The 100 series are built to a price point for big box stores.
 
   / D110 vs X304 #5  
A bit long-winded, but maybe relevant;

Have you considered a quality self-propelled walk-behind lawnmower? Perhaps a commercial 32"-36" unit? The "control" is there, as is "quality of cut". With a reasonably small area to mow, that cut- quality may outweigh the implied time-saving of a tractor, especially if you have to go back to trim the places that the tractor could not access, or mow well.''

Like yourself, I'm also in the market for a lawn-management solution. I have 2/3 of an acre, of which 1/2 an acre is mowable. Half of that is reasonably "flat", while the other half is steeply sloped. With my old push-mower, it was talking me 5 hours to do the job (1 1/2hrs of the flats, 3 1/2hrs for the slopes.) The slopes are VERY steep, and I have to wear golf-shoes for traction.

I initially started looking for a tractor, solely to reduce the time-factor involved. All the research I did suggested that I needed a very capable tractor to deal with the slopes, and that I'd probably regret going with a consumer-level tractor. I started looking at tractors with beefier trannies (X-320), then to a garden-tractor with a locked differential and serviceable tranny (X-500)

JD and Kubota both sent reps to my place, to look at my slopes, and both agreed that they were too steep , even for a 4wd tractor. I'd be able to descend the slopes, but not come back up the slope. I decided to order an X-500, and a self-propelled commercial 21" mower for the more difficult part of my slopes. My X-500 hasn't arrived yet, but the self-propelled mower was such a success at reducing the time and effort of dealing with my slopes, that I've now started to question whether or not I really needed a tractor.

While waiting for the X-500, Kubota came by with their 4wd GR-2110. Good Lord, what an amazing tractor. I couldn't believe it when that tractor managed to climb some of my slopes. Unfortunately, the slopes are built on landfill, with a rather thin coating of top-soil and grass, so there was some tear-out, and rocks started poking through and popping out. It was evident to me, that despite the hill-climbing capability, that this was not the right machine for the job. Because my slopes are "tiered" (short steep slope/flat narrow ledge/short steep slope/ flat yard) the deck could not follow the contours very well, so the slopes will be assigned to the self-propelled mower.

That leaves the flat part of my yard, which is roughly a 1/4 acre. Now ordinarily, I would have said, I'll use the self-propelled to do the flats too, and be done with it, but I have a back injury which makes walking difficult at the moment. I figure a tractor may help for the time being, but I'm now totally reconsidering the need for a Garden-Tractor. As much as I L-O-V-E the GR-2110, and the concept of a "beefy garden-tractor", it was immediately evident to me, that this tractor was complete and utter overkill for the flat part of my lawn. I have no intention of using a tractor for snow-removal, so I'm presently re-evaluating the need for such a heavy-duty tractor(X-500), if used strictly as a mower.

I spoke to the JD dealer about the Kubota experience, and told him about my concerns, so he has offered to deliver my X-500, and an X-320, so we can see first-hand how that works out. To be honest, I'm even thinking about down-sizing to a D-series for that flat area, or buying a 32"-36" 15hp commercial self-propelled walk-behind mower. A dealer recently offered me a re-built Toro ProLine(?) with a brand new 15hp Kawasaki motor, for $2200.

The new 21" self-propelled I bought, reduced my mowing time from 5hrs to 2 1/2hrs, so I presume a 36" walk-behind would further reduce the time required to half of that, with very little effort involved, and deliver a top-notch cut-quality to boot.
 
   / D110 vs X304 #7  
Not to be rude but why don't you guys keep the lawn tractors in the JD lawn tractor forum? Here:John Deere Lawn & Garden - TractorByNet.com

Matt:confused:

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See anything there specifying not to discuss buying Lawn and Garden tractors? :cool:
 
   / D110 vs X304
  • Thread Starter
#8  
A bit long-winded, but maybe relevant;

Have you considered a quality self-propelled walk-behind lawnmower? Perhaps a commercial 32"-36" unit? The "control" is there, as is "quality of cut". With a reasonably small area to mow, that cut- quality may outweigh the implied time-saving of a tractor, especially if you have to go back to trim the places that the tractor could not access, or mow well.''

Like yourself, I'm also in the market for a lawn-management solution. I have 2/3 of an acre, of which 1/2 an acre is mowable. Half of that is reasonably "flat", while the other half is steeply sloped. With my old push-mower, it was talking me 5 hours to do the job (1 1/2hrs of the flats, 3 1/2hrs for the slopes.) The slopes are VERY steep, and I have to wear golf-shoes for traction.

I initially started looking for a tractor, solely to reduce the time-factor involved. All the research I did suggested that I needed a very capable tractor to deal with the slopes, and that I'd probably regret going with a consumer-level tractor. I started looking at tractors with beefier trannies (X-320), then to a garden-tractor with a locked differential and serviceable tranny (X-500)

JD and Kubota both sent reps to my place, to look at my slopes, and both agreed that they were too steep , even for a 4wd tractor. I'd be able to descend the slopes, but not come back up the slope. I decided to order an X-500, and a self-propelled commercial 21" mower for the more difficult part of my slopes. My X-500 hasn't arrived yet, but the self-propelled mower was such a success at reducing the time and effort of dealing with my slopes, that I've now started to question whether or not I really needed a tractor.

While waiting for the X-500, Kubota came by with their 4wd GR-2110. Good Lord, what an amazing tractor. I couldn't believe it when that tractor managed to climb some of my slopes. Unfortunately, the slopes are built on landfill, with a rather thin coating of top-soil and grass, so there was some tear-out, and rocks started poking through and popping out. It was evident to me, that despite the hill-climbing capability, that this was not the right machine for the job. Because my slopes are "tiered" (short steep slope/flat narrow ledge/short steep slope/ flat yard) the deck could not follow the contours very well, so the slopes will be assigned to the self-propelled mower.

That leaves the flat part of my yard, which is roughly a 1/4 acre. Now ordinarily, I would have said, I'll use the self-propelled to do the flats too, and be done with it, but I have a back injury which makes walking difficult at the moment. I figure a tractor may help for the time being, but I'm now totally reconsidering the need for a Garden-Tractor. As much as I L-O-V-E the GR-2110, and the concept of a "beefy garden-tractor", it was immediately evident to me, that this tractor was complete and utter overkill for the flat part of my lawn. I have no intention of using a tractor for snow-removal, so I'm presently re-evaluating the need for such a heavy-duty tractor(X-500), if used strictly as a mower.

I spoke to the JD dealer about the Kubota experience, and told him about my concerns, so he has offered to deliver my X-500, and an X-320, so we can see first-hand how that works out. To be honest, I'm even thinking about down-sizing to a D-series for that flat area, or buying a 32"-36" 15hp commercial self-propelled walk-behind mower. A dealer recently offered me a re-built Toro ProLine(?) with a brand new 15hp Kawasaki motor, for $2200.

The new 21" self-propelled I bought, reduced my mowing time from 5hrs to 2 1/2hrs, so I presume a 36" walk-behind would further reduce the time required to half of that, with very little effort involved, and deliver a top-notch cut-quality to boot.

I actually made a decision and went with the X304. I did think about going with a good quality 34" mower but the more I read a lot of them had problems and then going with a better one the cost difference between the riding mower and commercial self-propelled was negligible. I cut the lawn using the riding mower for the first time this past Friday. It worked great and was finished in about 45 minutes. I'm thinking this will get better once I figure out how I should mow my lawn. It also took me an additional 15-20 minutes using my 22" mower to clean up the edges and some areas I couldn't reach. Overall, I'm happy with the purchase.
 

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