Cyclone snow blowers?

[screamin400]

Has anyone used the inverted cyclone snow blower from pronovost? My dealer wants 11,500 for a 92" with wings. They are suppose to be awesome. What have you heard on prices?

 

[leonz]

Hello screamin400,

The only way your going to know for sure about how they operate is to contact a few pronovost dealers in Ontario and Quebec and ask how many they have sold and whether it would be possible to contact one or more of these purchasers and ask them how they like these snowblowers.

If your going to buy you should do it very soon as they may be unable to fill your order.
As I mentioned before you will save a wad of money if you cross over the border and buy it at a Pronovost dealer and your Ontario or Quebec sales tax will be refunded at the bodrer crossing unless you intend on deducting it as part of a business expense for an annual depreciation expense against gross income for your plowing business.

As far as I know Riest still has that single stage pull behind unit for sale too.

 

[screamin400]

I see they are cheaper in Canada but I need it for the deduction. I can use it against my dealer though. Guys I have talked to like them a lot. I did purchase a meteor 87" for one tractor but now thinking of adding another one

 

[leonz]

Hello screamin400,

Just keep in mind that all the parts are generic and the only specific ones you have to worry about are the wear edges.

The hydraulic motor for the chute rotation and the chain(if used) the hoses and the cylinder for the spout are common and if your using it for commercial use the warranty is only a year if I remember correctly. They probably use a comer gearbox as well.
The gear ring for the chute may be the only other wear part you should have from the dealer or the factory.

What steered you away from the Riest single stage pull behind unit for under $6,000.00 I told you about, was the the smaller width the issue?

Just remember "any snow blower" is as dumb as dirt and a single stage is much smarter because it has fewer parts.

 

[screamin400]

We are going commercial snow blowing. Width is a big deal. I like the cyclone with the wings but 11500 is crazy. 9500 for it without the wings. It appears to not need a rear scraper blade so that offsets a little bit. A new meteor with the rear blade is about 6500 give or take. I do like the job that the Cyclone does but I think my dealer can do much better than he is saying. I am grouping the blower in with the tractor as a one price deal so have to go with what he sells which is just about everything.

 

[Agvg]

The problem for a lot of one stage is how well they handle very heavy and wet snow.

Even two stage can be bad under those conditions, so the buyer should ask someone with product experience under difficult snow conditions, and that are independent from the dealer or factory.

 

[screamin400]

The problem for a lot of one stage is how well they handle very heavy and wet snow.

Even two stage can be bad under those conditions, so the buyer should ask someone with product experience under difficult snow conditions, and that are independent from the dealer or factory.

The couple guys I have talked to love them. These are two stage. I was hoping the folks on here had used them but I think the price stops a lot of people.

 

[leonz]

If it were me I would still hold out for the single stage Riest pull behind ONLY because you will have all the torque you can use since all the torque delivered is being sent to the chain drive for the snow blower rotor. They can add wings to the unit they have and the single stage unit has much more steel in its construction. The lower cost would let you go up one or two engine frame sizes too.

For the money that they want for it you could have them add chute spot lights and rear marker lights too.

The lower cost of the Riest single stage will let you go up one or two engine frame sizes for a purchase and the power take off would never be short of torque to spin the snow blower rotor as it has four paddles in the center for direct discharge up the chute.


With heavy wet snow you going to have to go a bit slower anyway but with the single stage unit and a larger mule/engine frame size you will never lack for torque under any condition.

You can always add slick sheet material or paint the interior of the snow thrower and the cross auger with slick plate paint to prevent snow hanging up and the single stage will not clog like a 2 stage will either as the construction of the machine is fully open and exposed except for the rear portion of the snow blower rotor housing which has an adjustable gap to allow the user to throw even more snow rather than have that 1/-3/8+ inch layer amount of snow staying in the housing for each rotation of the snow blower rotor.

As I have mentioned before I never had a bit of trouble with the 12 horse IHC Cub Cadet with the horizontal Kohler engine I had with the single stage snow thrower that was belt driven through a right angle bevel gear box to the cross shaft that spun 40 roller chain to power the snow blower rotor. I had to take smaller bites in wet slush but other than that it was never short on power.

 

[screamin400]

If it were me I would still hold out for the single stage Riest pull behind ONLY because you will have all the torque you can use since all the torque delivered is being sent to the chain drive for the snow blower rotor. They can add wings to the unit they have and the single stage unit has much more steel in its construction. The lower cost would let you go up one or two engine frame sizes too.

For the money that they want for it you could have them add chute spot lights and rear marker lights too.

The lower cost of the Riest single stage will let you go up one or two engine frame sizes for a purchase and the power take off would never be short of torque to spin the snow blower rotor as it has four paddles in the center for direct discharge up the chute.


With heavy wet snow you going to have to go a bit slower anyway but with the single stage unit and a larger mule/engine frame size you will never lack for torque under any condition.

You can always add slick sheet material or paint the interior of the snow thrower and the cross auger with slick plate paint to prevent snow hanging up and the single stage will not clog like a 2 stage will either as the construction of the machine is fully open and exposed except for the rear portion of the snow blower rotor housing which has an adjustable gap to allow the user to throw even more snow rather than have that 1/-3/8+ inch layer amount of snow staying in the housing for each rotation of the snow blower rotor.

As I have mentioned before I never had a bit of trouble with the 12 horse IHC Cub Cadet with the horizontal Kohler engine I had with the single stage snow thrower that was belt driven through a right angle bevel gear box to the cross shaft that spun 40 roller chain to power the snow blower rotor. I had to take smaller bites in wet slush but other than that it was never short on power.

I am not looking to reinvent the wheel here. I am listening to the guys doing 2-5000 driveways. They are just getting started with the cyclone now but a few ran last year. Was hoping someone on here had run one

 

[leonz]

What made you think I was reinventing the wheel?

I suggested the Reist unit only because it was half the cost of the Pronovost Cyclone and you could have a bigger tractor with higher horsepower in the bargain to provide more usable torque and you would be saving $6,500.00.