GREAT info on this discussion page - thanks! We just bought the first 2004 3204 that the local dealer rec'd (for $4999), and he also gave us a nice trade-in amount on our 11 year old White. Speaking of trade-ins and cost...since the trade-in amount we were given was decent, we didn't even try to dicker the sticker cost. Was that a mistake? I heard somewhere that 10% off is common, but from what the sales rep was telling us, their profit margin is fairly small (like maybe $500 a machine, which IS 10% on this 3204). Could we have gotten it for less? (it's kinda masochistic to even ask at this point, isn't it...)