Considering a new Case Farmall Series A

[sseelhoff]

After 10 years, I have determined that my John Deere 2320 needs to go. At 373 replaced the drive shaft due to maintenance instructions failing to advise that the shaft had zertz for greasing. Serviced by dealerships, and they did not service. After blowing it out, they refused to stand behind the product. Now 391 hours the hydro transmission shaft blew out, due to the drive shaft failure. Wanna guess what JD says? Lift Arm on the rear hydraulics also broke at about 385 hours. This machine is not abused. It's used for lots of mowing and the occasional dirt work with the FEL. Serviced every 100 hours with oil and filter changes, and the zertz fittings (that we know about per the manual) greased regularly. Garage stored when not in use.

Reading a lot on line about the design problems with the Yanmar 24 in this model particularly that lead to the series of failures. So we're dumping it after this latest breakdown. JD hat is going in the burn pile. (Yes, I'm ticked off at JD right now) We have a New Holland dealer here in town. Nice folks-we've purchased parts for the JD in the past.

Thoughts on the New Holland Boomer versus the Case Farmall A Series? Going to upgrade into the 33 hp range. We have 10 acres total. 8 is in row crops that are farmed for us, so I don't touch them. The other two are grass pastures for the horse, and gravel drive that I maintain with the FEL (moving based, gravel, etc.)

Input welcome, questions too.

Thanks.

 

[snowbelt geauga]

If you are looking at the case and the Boomer why not look at the last ? LS manufacturs theses tractors for them and are cheaper with more options included.

 

[sseelhoff]

Thanks. I just found that online.

Had no idea. Have read that the Shiabura units were better than the LS? Any truth to that or is that unsupported opinion?

 

[snowbelt geauga]

I am not a fan of the shiabura engines . The new LS engines have a better regen system in my opinion. But that is my opinion. As far as the quality of the tractor I will put it up against any color tractor out there.

 

[sseelhoff]

I am not a fan of the shiabura engines . The new LS engines have a better regen system in my opinion. But that is my opinion. As far as the quality of the tractor I will put it up against any color tractor out there.

Thanks for the input. I guess I need to test drive. Dang it. You know what a chore riding around on a new tractor can be.

Just found another advantage to the upgrade. I can use the new tractor to move the horse trailer around the farm and into the barn (empty, of course) without having to hook up to the truck. Score!

 

[Phillip w]

What ever you do, do not go with a Massey ferguson. Agco bought Massey ferguson and they are running it into the ground. I ha've a little massey ferguson compact tractor about 30 hp. It is broke more than is running. Agco won't stand behind their tractor. Funny thing is they wanted me to trade. They could not understand why I'm done with Massey ferguson. Massey ferguson tractor are a hard sell around here, nobody wants one. Everything is John Deere and case-ih with a few Kubota and New Holland tractors scattered throughout the country.

 

[mcfarmall]

AGCO=the MTD of farm equipment.

 

[sseelhoff]

Thanks for the head's up on Massey. I looked at a 1736 yesterday. 2015 model with 2.5 hours. Selling as new even though it has been sitting outside and nit being run. Sitting that long concerns me. Sun damage is cosmetic. Shifting the ranges was tough. Didn't want to move from high to medium easily. It loosened up, but the salesman really had to lay into it at first. 0% financing is a joke. If you finance, you pay more for the tractor. Closest dealer is over an hour away.

 

[ShowroomShine]

The boomer and the case are the exact same tractor made by ls.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

AGCO=the MTD of farm equipment.

MTD has turned a lot of good names into junk, IF you think AGCO has done or is doing "that", then you haven't owned much AGCO equipment!

Like other brands, AGCO has made some mistakes, but they also have made some VERY good moves too and I like the AGCO products I own, it just keeps on making me money!

SR

 

[TSO]

AGCO=the MTD of farm equipment.

This is fake news...

AGCO is a huge company that uses many suppliers. The AGCO products i have owned and still own (Iseki built, Massey Ferguson) have been stellar, top quality machines. Sadly, most of the recent Massey complaints have more to do with dealer ineptitude then machine quality.

 

[sugarloafguy]

Buy the 46D/Easy Drive if you can find a demo. It's the Shibaura class III with the Fiat Diesel. Leave the LS adventure for someone else. I picked up a TC24DA last week in PA with 250 hours basically brand new with a NIB 914A rear discharge MMM. This is my second Shibaura NH as I also have a TC29DA. Did not care for the LS Boomers. You will be glad you spent the extra time and money.

I have mowed 300 miles in the last 3 years in a Deere 5083 cab. Everything kinda feels cheap in that after running my NH machines and the parts diagrams and service is better with CNH. Don't blame you for pulling the green plug, been there with a GATOR RSX850i and did the same thing. Nothing but trouble.

Massey makes a nice tractor as well. Remember Allis owns Valtra and also Fendt which is the tractor Deere wished it was and the best tractor money can buy so it too is a solid choice. Compare the fit and finish of Massey and also the NH/Case unit with Deere, Kubota, Kioti, Yanmar and see what aged units on dealer lots look like. Love the pink Kubotas. You are on the right track!

 

[jd870]

I own a MF 1529 with loader,bought it new in march 2014,currently about 350 hours,use it for driveway grading and field mowing. no problems what so ever.agco/massey ferguson as well as iseki make some excellent equipment,like all manufacturers they have issues with certain models,so you think you will buy another brand and guranteed no issues think again.agco/masssey is no mtd.

 

[mtnxtreme800]

I just sold my LS 6168 and bought a Case/IH 75C. It is not manufactured by LS, which is made in South Korea, but manufactured in Italy, and puts the LS to shame as far as fitment, power, looks, controls etc. Very happy with the new machine. You are looking at the A model which I'm 99% sure is the same as the C without a cab. Go for the C model with cab, you won't be sorry ! I know LS does make New Holland, because I have seen the tag on it ! My brother in law just got a 100hp Massey, he's not happy with that either !

 

[jd870]

I think your Case IH 75c was actually made by case ih at one of there factories in italy.

 

[sseelhoff]

Made a final decision. We ended up buying the New Holland. It's the same unit as the Case, but the New Holland Dealer is closer-5 miles from the house-and made us a good deal in trade on our John Deere. Delivery scheduled for 2:00 p.m. this afternoon.

Any guesses on what my weekend looks like?