Considering a John Deere 3036E

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Pete O

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Victoria, Australia
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Ford 4100
G'day all, been lurking for some time but have just registered and this is my first post. I live on a 4-acre property in the Gippsland region of Victoria, Australia. We bought an old Ford 4100 with FEL a number of years ago but it was pretty sad when we bought it- the seller lied outright about many things I asked about directly prior to buying sight unseen- and it is now at the point where we don't consider it worth further repairs and we are planning on buying a replacement.
We have considered the options of buying another old tractor & loader, buying a used tractor and fitting a new loader etc but we have pretty much settled on purchasing a new tractor complete with FEL and 4-in-1 bucket.
To give some idea of what we use the tractor for, we cut around 13 tons of firewood each year mainly on our own property and the loader is used extensively for that; general lifting and carrying tasks including moving dirt and tanbark etc around the garden; I have a 6' grader blade that is used to keep the driveway in shape; a rotary drainer that gets hooked up once a year to freshen up some spoon drains; a PTO- driven 3pl cement mixer that sees occasional service; last week I used a borrowed 5' rotary hoe to put in about 1/4 acre of new lawn.
I have been looking online at various budget Chinese tractors- a friend has recently bought an Enfly 45hp tractor and is very happy with it- but I am very wary of budget Chinese products. Also their dealer / importer is located about 2000km from us in another state.
I spent today at the big annual farming field days near us, looking at compact tractors of various makes- John Deere, Massey Ferguson, Case, Kioti, TYM, Kubota, Apollo. (The Ford NH salesmen chatted amongst themselves whilst I examined their compacts but did not deign to approach me). The one that seems most attractive at present is the John Deere 3036E, offered with 4-in-1 FEL and HST for a shade under $24,000. This compares very favourably with the 45hp enfly tractor at $20k, was about $4k less than the direct competitor in the Case range, a full $6k less than the 35hp Apollo.
The only negative I could find with the 3036E is the lack of remote hydraulics; I have nursed vague plans of fitting my grader blade with hydraulic swivel and tilt but really not sure what else I might want remotes for- how big a bonus is it to have the remotes, and how big a deal is it to retrofit them?
I'm keen on the HST, primarily because I want something that my wife will be willing to use- she is very intimidated by the old 4100 and with bad knees she can barely depress the clutch pedal. I think she will be able to use a HST machine comfortably.
I'm keen to hear any experience or knowledge of this tractor, any known problems, any other helpful advice before we drop some serious (for us at least) coin. I don't think I'll get much of a resale price on the 4100 as I'm not prepared to lie about it, so we're expecting to find ourselves at least $20k out of pocket and don't want to regret it.
Pete
 
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Not being familiar with the 3036E, I checked on Deere's website, and I don't believe it is offered in the States... There is a 3038E, however. The list price for the tractor with FEL w/ parking stand, one rear remote, cruise and R 4s is close to $29K USD, which seems pretty pricey to me. I didn't like the E series (for the money) when I looked at them just over a year ago.
 
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G'day Mate and welcome to TBN from Tassie.

For our NA friends, this is what Pete is looking at: 336E 3 Family Compact Utility Tractors | John Deere

It looks like a fine rig for what you're going to ask of it. What I'd recommend is to find the best dealership in your area (Gippsland is a fair sized area with some extreme terrain thrown in :eek:), sit down and honestly talk to the salesman about your needs. A good one will sell you the tractor that you need, not the one that's on the lot. Being on the mainland, they can get that tractor easily. The price looks good, especially if that's a 'Field Day' special price.

Getting a 4in1 will mean that an extra remote will be installed on the D160 FEL. That's good because if, on the rare occasion that you need a rear remote, you can detach it off of the FEL and weave it to the back. Of course they offer an optional rear remote if you want.

The Yanmar donk is a very good, solid engine. After market parts/filters are readily available for maintenance if you don't want to go OEM.

I wouldn't bother with the mid-mount-mower. (save some $s there) But instead go with a small (D105?) lawn tractor, seeing as you've got 4 acres. Haggle over a 'packaged deal' for that, although the lawn tractor area of the dealership is probably another salesman's 'rice bowl'. You won't need the cruise control option either.

When I went to purchase my tractor I was seriously looking at the 3000 series rigs. As I mentioned, the salesman really questioned me about what I wanted/needed... and what I didn't really need. He then showed me the 'bare-bones' 4105, which came in at less $s than the 3000's that I was looking at. This allowed me extra $s to get the implements that I needed, including the 300CX FEL with 4in1 (made by Fieldquip, up in QLD).

Have fun haggling Mate.
 
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After looking at the link Wagtail posted, it seems like you're getting a solid machine that should handle most of your needs. I have a 4720 which is physically about the same size, but has some extra horsepower, and my uses are similar to yours with lots of wood gathering.

If I were you, I would definitely work out some sort of deal to get rear remotes installed before you finalize the sale. My 4720 didn't have any when I got it and being a complete tractor newbie at the time, didn't think I'd have any use for them anyway. That was the first of many mistakes, but one that was corrected several years later.

Whatever you decide, keep us posted. On this site, we tend to live vicariously through others.
 
   / Considering a John Deere 3036E
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Thanks for the replies thus far. The loader that the dealer had fitted is an Australian-made Howard loader, they are a large reputable machinery manufacturer here and the guy said they are able to keep the price down compared to importing the tractor with the JD loader fitted. The Howard does not have the easy connect / disconnect feature that I have seen online on the JD loader but I can't see any need to remove it anyway, I've found with the old Ford that just removing the bucket is enough if I'm looking for extra maneouvrability.
I take the point about the value of having remotes, will look into having them fitted. Hydraulic swing & tilt would certainly make the driveway maintenance a lot more manageable. I won't be needing a mower deck or a new mower, I have a Kubota G1900 with 48" deck that serves me well for that job.
 
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Good stuff on the Howard FEL. Truth be told I haven't had a reason to disconnect my 300CX during the 3 years I've had mine. Speaking of FELs, what type of method is the bucket attached to the arms? JD has their own 'system' so anything you get would need to be compatable... however a lot of people go for the Skid Steer Quick Attach (SSQA) system. All of my stuff is JD so I'll let others pipe up about the SSQA.

Seeing as your Ford 4100 is Cat1, as is the JD you're considering, I would highly recommend getting the iMatch quick-attach for the 3PH. You'll need bushings for all of your 3PH implements but it is well worth the investment.
 
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The Howard loader has the 'Euro' attachment method, I think it was the same as every other loader I looked at at the field days, although no doubt they are all subtly different. I will look into the iMatch, certainly need some king of easy-attachment system although my inclination is to fabricate my own- I have a very well equipped workshop and do a fair bit of that kind of thing.
 
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I have a 4720 which is physically about the same size, but has some extra horsepower, and my uses are similar to yours with lots of wood gathering.
The 4720 and 3E Series are not close - very light, mid-frame compact vs hd, large frame compact - compare the specs.
The 3E tractor alone barely weighs over 2K#
Lots of JD equipment over the years, but not a fan at all of the 3E Series... I don't know what else is available in Australia, but I would think you could do better - just my 2 cents.
 
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The 4720 and 3E Series are not close - very light, mid-frame compact vs hd, large frame compact - compare the specs.
The 3E tractor alone barely weighs over 2K#
Lots of JD equipment over the years, but not a fan at all of the 3E Series... I don't know what else is available in Australia, but I would think you could do better - just my 2 cents.

I agree with what you're saying mate, but Pete O isn't a newbie at tractoring. He's got 4 acres to work with, knows what hp range he needs for his tasks & implements and has had the opportunity to see practically all of the 'colours' on display, at once, during a local Field Day (agricultural show). It's Autumn down here and the dealerships are ready to have 'show specials' in their area/territory. If anything, it's to get someone 'in the market' in through their door.

As long as the dealership is a good one (sales & service) and the price is great for what they're offering (it's probably an 'off the lot' tractor/combination) it looks like a nice rig.
 
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I agree with what you're saying mate, but Pete O isn't a newbie at tractoring. He's got 4 acres to work with, knows what hp range he needs for his tasks & implements and has had the opportunity to see practically all of the 'colours' on display, at once, during a local Field Day (agricultural show). It's Autumn down here and the dealerships are ready to have 'show specials' in their area/territory. If anything, it's to get someone 'in the market' in through their door.

As long as the dealership is a good one (sales & service) and the price is great for what they're offering (it's probably an 'off the lot' tractor/combination) it looks like a nice rig.

You should reread the post by GreenCamo, and note he quoted blackdog2086. No reference to Pete O was made.
 

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