Compression numbers

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jeff pk

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Soundguy (or anyone), do you know what a good compression gage reading is on an 881? My 2 manuals give me different info, and some fellows on another site have me confused. FO-20 manual says compression gage reading should be between 130-140 which is what I have, but the Ford manual says 200 @ 1000rpm, and the other site is saying that's the number for a new engine. Confused

Thanks...
 
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Not a tractor mechanic, and I don't even know the years an 881 was made. I asume late 50's to mid 60's?
Anyways, you have to take compression readings with a small grain of salt as well as what so and so manual may say.
Firstly the method the test was done under. Was it done with all the plugs out? Was the throttle wide open? Did the engine turn the same number of revolutions at each cyl.?
Secondly what kind of guage was used? Was it a quality threaded into the spark plug type, or a cheapie hold on with one hand and operate the starter with the other? Also keep in mind that any guage is going to show some if not a large difference in reading bias from another guage, perhaps even of the same brand.
So to that end generally what we (I) look for with a compression reading is the difference between the highest reading and the lowest. And not necessarily an absolute pressure reading, because there are too many variables.
Lastly when taking compression reading for just gp (general principle) I always either take two readings at each cyl. or after removing the plugs crank the engine over a good number of times before starting the test because oil splash can throw off the reading between #1 and #4 by the time you get back there, ie. #1 starts out dry but #4's rings are partially sealed with oil after the cranking for the three cyl. tests before it.

Off the top I'd say your tractors piston rings and valves are in very reasonable shape. 130# to 140# for a mid 60's (?) small bore long stroke engine is probably what they tested out in the barn when the tractor was close to new.
Ahmmmmm, just a guess mind you.
 
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Yes, it's a 59. 172ci 4 cylinder gas engine. I warmed it up, removed all the plugs, opened the throttle, screwed in the gauge nice and tight, and got over 100 psi on the first stroke for all of them, then after 3-4 strokes they rose up to 132-142 on all of them and then I did a wet test with a couple squirs of oil and they went up by less than 5 psi on that run. I was fairly impressed with those number until a seed of doubt was planted over at that other site...
 
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If you could crank that engine to 1000 rpms you may well see numbers approaching 200#, but you're never going to get close to even half of 1000 rpms on a 12 volt starter.

What you're really looking for is the difference between the highest and lowest number. If memory serves, 10% differential is the operational standard for pointing toward problems in either the valve train (adjustments?) or compression ring wear.
 
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if you get 130 on the comp tester. you'll be fine.

200 I imagine would be a brand new , just broke in engine with well seated rings and perfect valves.. maybee a lil oil in the cyls too. :)
 
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Thanks Soundguy, you're a true friend to anyone with a Ford tractor. And rsallen, you have a nice way of explaining things---thanks
 

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