Complementing the 2210

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Sean_Pecor

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No - not complimenting - although I do like my 2210 /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I'm hoping for some recommendations on what JD tractor to purchase that would complement my existing 2210 without creating too much "overlap". I know that's a hard challenge to solve if you're not intimately familiar with my little (38 acre) horse farm, so I'll give everyone a brief overview:

We purchased our dream house and horse farm in May '05 (http://www.pecorfamily.com/). Once I've set down another 6,000' of fence or so, I'll have +/- 15 acres of pasture. Not full-time pasture, but part-time pasture for 10-12 horses. During the summer, they're out overnight and during the winter they're out during the day. My 2210 can mow this pretty fine - when we moved in the pastures and open fields were up to 5 feet tall but I still managed to mow well over an acre an hour with my 2210 - not bad considering that much of what I have is 16-18% grade - I'm in south central Virginia (Boones Mill, south of Roanoke). Until I repair some pastures (mild erosion from mismanagement of previous owner) I've got to deal with some bumpy spots which really slow me down on the 2210. And when I'm not already slowed down and not sitting the JD's "trot" the shock can get a bit tiring. Also, if I've just eaten, the bumps can get things a little too stirred up if you catch my meaning /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I think that may be the case even with something like a 3720 or a 4520, so I'm not looking necessarily to replace the 2210 for pasture mowing.

I'll be clearing a couple miles of hilly trails on our property and then maintaining them regularly. So, lots of cutting down trees and uprooting them also. I've cut down a few trees in our landscaping (cherry tree, large evergreens) and to my father in-law's amazement (a "real" farmer on 1,000 acres in Vermont) I've dug out and pulled up tree trunks and roots without getting off the 2210 and manhandling stumps. Doing this sort of stuff with my ****-end quite regularly a foot or two off the ground, I'm thinking, boy, if someone from JD Corporate saw me doing this, they'd be voiding my warranty /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif So, I'm wondering if this is one role best left for my 2210's future big brother, especially since I'll be moving on to potentially much larger undesirable trees down the road.

I've got about 8 acres of lawn riddled with trees and landscaping. Of course the 2210 with my 62" belly mower owns this yard. I can do it all in less than 3 hours even with no small amount of yard at a grade where prudence requires something less than full pedal. It's surreal. So, I'm not looking to replace the 2210 on this job.

A 20x60m outdoor arena, a 20x40m indoor arena. I can drag/blade the arenas just fine with the 2210. However, at least initially, I'm completely re-doing the indoor arena's footing and have been working on moving about hundreds of tons of footing out of the arena in preparation for putting down 2" of screened limestone. The 2210 is doing what I'm asking with remarkable aplomb but of course I can't help thinking it would take 1/3 the time in something larger. And yes, I understand that, because of my Y-chromosome, I'd have those very same thoughts on a 4720, or a 6400 and so on /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif. Still, while I'm not quite into warranty voiding territory, I'm beating the bejeezus out of my 2210 on this specific project.

Now, I'm setting down fence. At this point, I'm setting down "temporary" fence to split a 6 acre pasture into 6 paddocks with a single 16' lane between two sets of 3 paddocks. I'm starting the metal t-posts by hand and then setting them with the bottom of my 200CX loader (mental note: buy john deere green spray enamel). This is working fine, and I was able to set down 550' in 4 1/2 hours today with four strands of 1.5" tape with a 16' post distance. This temporary fence will stay for one year, at which point I'll be replacing the 3,500' or so with permanent fencing. My choice of permanent fencing is almost unheard of in the eastern U.S.A. It's from 440 Fence (http://www.440fence.com) and based on my research and site interviews etc. is sort of the ultimate in horse fencing. Visit the site if you want to read about it, I'll just mention here that it's galvanized and powder coated steel fence and each post is set in concrete. Anyway, I'll be digging hundreds and hundreds of post holes. I'm setting down several thousand feet of 440 Fence in early September. Next year, I'll be setting down another 3,500-4,000 feet. I can get a well recommended post hole digger for my 2210 but I wonder if this is one of the jobs I can give to my 2210's future big brother. I'm assuming I'll be able to cut down project time significantly with a +/- 40hp tractor?

Anyway, sorry for the long post, but I'm hoping my rambling will help generate some good recommendations. I'm looking at the 3000 and 4000 series. I'm leaning toward a 3720 because I'm not going to be mowing or chopping or using larger implements that need HP in the 60+ range. However, I don't know the differences between the 4000 series and it's new smaller counterpart. Should I stick with the 4000 series, or would getting the 3000 series save me some money and put a more suitable tractor to use?

Thanks in advance!

Sean.
 
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Hi Sean,
I just purchased a 2210 and think its a great little tractor /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. I got it as a fill in for my 4320.If I were to do it over again I would go with the 3720. My 4320 has been in the shop for a month now and JD says they will get it fixed someday. That being said the 3720 has a Yanmar engine. I have had a 950 and a 790 with these engines ( the 2210 is also a Yanmar)
And I have never ever had 1 engine problem with any of them . The 950 we had from 1978 until a few months ago. And I traded the 790 on the 4320. Now not everyone is having problems like myself with the 4X20 series. But after the last meeting with my dealer It sounds like some of the skid steers that are 300 hours or more are starting to have the same problems as me.The 950 with the Yanmar had over 7000 hours on it and needed its first clutch and regular oil change. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif They are as tough as they get. By the way a friend of the family has the 950 now and uses it every day.I think the 3720 will do everything you need it to.Just my personal opinion.

By the way if you guys get bored tomorrow, Maybe you can call supervisor Kim At John Deere and light a fire under her about my 4320. She has treated me pretty bad through this whole ordeal. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Thank You
Jim Reichard
 
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Jim, that's a drag about your 4320 /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Sounds like it is taking a good long while to get the parts you need shipped to the dealer? Or you've got an overworked service center. If I bought the 4320 and had my regrets I'd sell it or trade it in at the dealership for a 3720. I'd lose some money up front but life is too short to be driving a tractor I hate!

Thanks for the advice!

Sean
 
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I have a 2210 with a phd. I dont have nearly the same kind of fencing requirements as you do and I dont think the 2210 is powerful enough for you, especially if your ground has a lot of rocks. A phd is a fairly wild attachment and should only be used single handed ie a second person controlling the angle from the ground is vunerable to getting hurt.
 
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Here are the big issues as I see it:

Round Bales.

Rotary Cutters.

If you are dealing with bales and a 6' cutter, you might want to look at the 5000 series. If you want to stay with CUTs the 3000 series will only work well with SMALL round bales. (It has worked fine for me, but they are very dangerous, you need to really know what you are up against.)

The 4000 series is better suited for rounds. I think a 4120 would be a better match for you than a 3720. Assuming the engines work out...

But don't forget the 5000's.
 
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Hey folks, thanks for the input. I just wanted to update this thread with the news that during the summer I bought a 3720 with the 300CX loader. After 70 hours I'm very pleased with its performance and think it was the right tool for the job. We don't feed rounds in pasture - and you're right - a 3000 series with a round speared in front could get hairy especially in the mountain dales of southwest Virginia! With close to 1,200 pounds of loam in the loader, the 3720 has to be maneuvered delicately. It actually feels less sure footed relative to its size compared to the 2210 which is very predictable if somewhat limited in its work capacity.

Sean
 

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