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I'm shopping for a new compact tractor. I'd like to get something that's diesel powered, 4wd, has a loader rated to lift 1,000 lbs., and comes with a manual transmission or shuttle shift (no hydros). Shouldn't be that hard, right? Because I don't do this all the time, I didn't know that some tractors in this category have Regen. Ugh. No thanks. I looked at a Kubota today, closest to what I need/would like is a L2502. Only 25hp but dealer said everything bigger comes with Regen. I will be looking at Kioti next. Unclear on what they are doing for emissions. There's a Massey dealer nearby. What else should I be looking at? Brands or model recommendations would be welcome. Thanks!

O.
 
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Most of the under 26HP tractors sitting on a dealer's showroom will probably have an HST transmission, although some have geared as an option. That is what I found when looking lately. The New Holland Workmaster 25S sub-compact tractor that I just bought only comes with HST. I like it for what it is used for, mowing with the mid-mount mower and light lifting. The FEL is rated for 1,005#. The Workmaster 25 compact can lift 1,600# and has both HST and geared transmission options. Neither tractor has DPF as they are under 26HP. My tractor was $14,900 with FEL and mower. The dealer also sells Kioti. They were nice tractors and are comparably priced. Since I already have 2 New Hollands I stayed with New Holland.
 
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All tractors 26+ hp will have some emissions equipment. My advice is to see which dealers you have within what you consider to be a reasonable distance. Then go there and look at machines that meet your requirements. Test operate them and read reviews. Also consider the dealer: do they have an acceptable service shop, parts inventory, and reputation? Once you narrow down your choices, post back here and describe your intended uses and the machines you’re considering. Lots of forum members will have good advice if you explain your criteria and machine options. And depending on your needs, you shouldn’t foreclose consideration of machines with DPF emissions equipment. Many of us have experienced no problems with them. Lastly, price is always important for most of us, but it shouldn’t be the sole decision criteria.
 
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There are some guys that have the SA425 Yanmar tractors
0% for 84 months. 10 year warranty discounts up to $4,500


At 75-rated hp (80 max) the 80F Keyline is Tier 4 final capable with no Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) and without the use of a an exhaust fluid additive (SCR). That means you can rely on your tractor to operate reliably without worry about regeneration, filters or additional fluids. It doesn't get any simpler than the proven powertrain of an 80F Keyline.At 75-rated hp (80 max) the 80F Keyline is Tier 4 final capable with no Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) and without the use of a an exhaust fluid additive (SCR). That means you can rely on your tractor to operate reliably without worry about regeneration, filters or additional fluids. It doesn't get any simpler than the proven powertrain of an 80F Keyline.

willy
 
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Stricter Tier IV off-road diesel engine emission reduction standards phased in dealer tractor inventory during 2009 - 2012, impacting tractor prices.

Tier IV emission standards require all tractor manufacturers to add or revise pollution reduction technology on new tractors generating over 19 kW power = 25.4794 horsepower.

Most manufactures can meet Tier IV requirements without a Diesel Particulate Fillter up to about 26 horsepower via engine design and injection timing.

DPF is used by the majority of tractor manufactures for emissions control on OVER 24.4794 horsepower tractors.

Tier IV technology complicates the engine and exhaust package and is a significant cost factor. However, in favor of Tier IV technology, the cancer causing pollutants emitted by a Tier IV technology tractor are only 1% of the pollutants emitted by a pre-Tier IV tractor.
 
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You recently initiated these threads:

Compact Utility Tractor + skid steer implements?

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I'm shopping for a new compact tractor. I'd like to get something that's diesel powered, 4wd, has a loader rated to lift 1,000 lbs., and comes with a manual transmission or shuttle shift (no hydros).

You need to know that subcompact tractors are basically excellent lawn mowing machines that can do limited landscaping applications like moving fluffy mulch.

What tasks do you wish to do?
How many acres do you have that your prospective tractor will actually work?

If you buy too light of a tractor, then through inexperience push it too hard, your new tractor will soon be in the shop.

BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR




 
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Get a CUT with local-to-you dealer support. Look at consumables pricing. Nothing wrong with MF/NH/CIH/JD/K. My personal experience is K parts are cheaper and easier to obtain quickly than NH/JD which is why I sold my NH CUT and bought my fourth K.

Buy a used CUT eg. 2015 M59TLB last year of manufacture no DEF/DPF
or
Suck it up, get with the times and buy a new CUT with DPF

DPF/DEF is a cost of doing business
 
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Yes, Jeff, it's called research, thinking out loud among friends. I've been a member for a long time (hence that 1 acre description from 15 years ago or whenever I signed up). It's now 40+ acres.

O.
Ahhh, the importance of keeping your bio up to date... I would never suggest a 25 hp tractor for 40 acres (too small) and I would not shy away from a hydrostatic transmission or a regenerative emission tractor. But that is why they make so many options when it comes to tractors, to each their own.
I do mostly mowing and road grading with my 52 hp hydrostatic tier 4 Kubota. I will never go back to a clutched drive train. The hydrostatic trans is more controllable and more convenient to operate. I previously owned two 50 hp shuttle shift tractors over a 30 year span of year round operation.
 

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