ck27...

[vtcoyote]

... just curious about this new model KIOTI - run ahead of the pack!
has anybody heard anything about it?
why would the 5 horsepower void between the 25 and 30 need to be filled and are there any exciting new features?

 

[jimmyj]

Bizarre to have a 27hp. Never heard of it before.

I will stop by the dealer on my way home and ask about it. There has to be some point for 3 tractors in the CK line in a 5hp range

 

[wallace]

I just put one on my lot..
It is the same tractor as the 25 30 and 35 just a 27 hp..
The 25 will be phased out and replaced by the new 27 which is a teir 3 emission compliance engine..
So if your looking to buy GO to your Kioti dealer and snatch up the CK25 tractors before they are all gone because the new 27 comes with a heafty price increase.

 

[BTI]

Yes, tis weird...
Especially when you look and see it is actually 28hp

BTI

 

[crabjoe]

Yes, tis weird...
Especially when you look and see it is actually 28hp

BTI

I wonder if they call it a 27 because that extra hp goes to emissions control.

 

[Patches]

You never really know what the HP rating is When I bought my 3054, it was advertised in the brouchers, and by the dealers as a 30HP tractor. When I got it home,the data plate on the rocker box stated it was rated at 28 gross HP. My inquiries to Kioti resulted in a letter stating the manufacturer reserved the right to change spec's without notice. You can't change what never was;Daedong rates the T1400-B1 as a 28 gross HP motor:Kioti advertised it as a 30 gross HP motor To say I was dissappointed would be an understatement The tractor performs well and I guess I shouldn't be all that upset,BUT I thought I was buying a 30 and got a 28

 

[KiotiDave]

Hi,
We have one each Shuttle and Hst on the lot. There was a lot of hype about the 25 being a little underpowered, maybe Kioti was listening?
My thoughts are that they will eventually settle on a CK27 and a CK35 and have the six horsepower spacing in that model. The 25 is eliminated from the line-up, maybe the 30 is bext? Just thinking out loud...
Anyway, If anyone in the area want to try the new CK27 you are welcome to stop in and run it around the yard.
KiotiDave

 

[vtcoyote]

interesting, so is this going to burn less fuel and have better emissions?

seeing how kioti is re-tooling the ck series line up, have any dk series features been expected to be incorporated in the near future (electric 4wd & pto engage, etc.) that i might have to take a look at.

 

[IslandTractor]

Hi,
My thoughts are that they will eventually settle on a CK27 and a CK35 and have the six horsepower spacing in that model. The 25 is eliminated from the line-up, maybe the 30 is bext? Just thinking out loud....
KiotiDave

That was exactly my thought when I heard about the 27. Too close to the 30 for both to be in the line up.

 

[DirtHauler]

I just put one on my lot..
It is the same tractor as the 25 30 and 35 just a 27 hp..
The 25 will be phased out and replaced by the new 27 which is a teir 3 emission compliance engine..
So if your looking to buy GO to your Kioti dealer and snatch up the CK25 tractors before they are all gone because the new 27 comes with a heafty price increase.

Just curious, but what does it mean " emission compliance"? Does it have a "soot" collector with re-generation like on road vehicles? Will you be required to run ULSD fuel? along with the expensive LS engine oil? And will these engines be required to pass an emission test every couple years or so?

 

[bluechip]

More stringent EPA requirements went into effect Jan 1. (tier III I think, depending on HP class). This is why they cant get any more DK65s in country.

 

[crabjoe]

Just curious, but what does it mean " emission compliance"? Does it have a "soot" collector with re-generation like on road vehicles? Will you be required to run ULSD fuel? along with the expensive LS engine oil? And will these engines be required to pass an emission test every couple years or so?

1st, let me say that particle traps and such are EGR setups on on-road vehicles are ways manufacturers chose meet new emissions standards. 2nd, there are different rules for on/off road vehicles so what happens in one segment doesn't mean it's going to happen in the other.

As for getting a vehicle emissions testing, that's up to the state. That's the reason different states have different regulations. They just need to meet minimum Federal standards. Now with you being in CA, who knows what CA will force on it's residents.

If you want to read up on the different tiers of off-road emissions, follow this like. Emission Standards: USA: Nonroad Diesel Engines

 

[kcook]

Checked it out on the web site, the spec page is not complete yet.

KC

 

[dfkrug]

Now with you being in CA, who knows what CA will force on it's residents.

Well, CA has not done emissions testing for on- or off-road Diesels, despite setting standards in that area. No testing for motorcyles either. Go figure.
You do NOT want to get behind a Dodge Diesel PU with a poorly running
engine!

Newer combustion chamber and FI design has certainly made for quieter and
less stinky Diesel tractors. I like that, since I am cursed with sensitive nose
and ears. My 05 CK30 is a delight to drive; my 98 B21 is awful.

I just looked at the new CK brochure. For you Kioti dealers who read TBN,
you need to get the factory to publish honest specs on weight and the
hyd implement pump flow (8.3GPM).

 

[DirtHauler]

Well, CA has not done emissions testing for on- or off-road Diesels, despite setting standards in that area. No testing for motorcyles either. Go figure.
You do NOT want to get behind a Dodge Diesel PU with a poorly running
engine!

Newer combustion chamber and FI design has certainly made for quieter and
less stinky Diesel tractors. I like that, since I am cursed with sensitive nose
and ears. My 05 CK30 is a delight to drive; my 98 B21 is awful.

I just looked at the new CK brochure. For you Kioti dealers who read TBN,
you need to get the factory to publish honest specs on weight and the
hyd implement pump flow (8.3GPM).

The guy who does my smog checks on my personal vehicles said he has to install another dyno just for motorcycles since he has to start doing smog checks on them........ isn't Cali great! and they say the everything blows east!

 

[qed-cat225]

CK27=Bobcat CT225 which is what I have, real nice tractor, quite a price delta form Bobcat to go to the 30HP unit