Checking to see if I can lift a half-ton machine

Ken P · Mar 13, 2013

Folks - I've been trying to read and understand the threads on lift capacity, but I'm not sure I get it, so I thought I'd post with the specifics to see if I've got this right.

I have a Kubota B2410, with an LA352 FEL. According to the manual, I have a lift capacity at the pivot pin of 1035 lbs, and a (unspecified location) lift capacity of 770 lbs. The Breakout force at the pivot pin is 1885 lbs, and the unspecified-location breakout force is 1336 lbs.

The machine I need to lift is a Grizzly jointer, weighs in at 1056lbs as shipped (I may be able to reduce the weight by taking off some of the shipping crate, and/or some of the top of the machine, but would rather not if I don't need to). I plan to use my bolt-on pallet forks which will also be secured with a ratchet and strap around the bucket. I only need to get this thing maybe a foot off the ground, and will be carrying it about 100 feet.

So, am correct in these numbers saying that I can do this but am pretty close to capacity? Also, do I understand correctly that if I try to pick it up and it's too heavy, no harm done, the machine just won't lift? I certainly do not want to harm the tractor or loader.

Thanks, and sorry if this has been asked too many times before...

Ken

dex3361 · Mar 13, 2013

Your loader capacity is about 700 pounds this load is way to heavy for your machine.

murphy1244 · Mar 13, 2013

You can't do it, you must add the weight of the forks and bucket and distance from the pin and your weight factor decreases.

k0ua · Mar 13, 2013

I would have to agree with the others, I don't believe you will be able to lift the pallet. Keep in mind your bolt on forks just put the load further away from the pivot pin, and you still have to lift your bucket and the forks themselves too.. no sorry, not going to happen. However you will not hurt your tractor, the relief valve will kick in.. Now the bolt on forks, and the bucket edge... well... probably be OK.. but it might strain the bucket edge, depending on how they are made, and fasten on. You really need a tractor the size of mine with SSQA forks (much closer to the pivot pin) and proper ballast on the back to be sure of lifting your machine... Now if you can lift some weight off of the pallet you might be able to get done what you want done.

James K0UA

xring100 · Mar 13, 2013

If you had a quick attach loader and forks you would probably lift off the ground doubtful with he clamp on style

murphy1244 · Mar 13, 2013

xring100 said:
If you had a quick attach loader and forks you would probably lift off the ground doubtful with he clamp on style

Even then I would bet against it.

BuzzardA91 · Mar 13, 2013

On my loader, and most others, the rating seems to be lift to full height. My loader is way stronger then rated when only lifting two feet off ground. With bolt on forks definitely won't be able to lift it. With pallet forks and no bucket I would think you could lift it enough to transport with proper ballast. Those bolt on forks have weight and extend it way past pivot pins. Strength goes down exponentially as get further out.

On my delta jointer you can unbolt the bed from the lower portion and motor, not sure on Grizzly.

Ken P · Mar 13, 2013

OK, thanks for the info folks. I'll look into what I can do to lighten the load. I'm also wondering if I can get the pallet up on some pipe rollers, maybe I could half push, half lift? Any ideas on something like that?

With luck, the ground will be frozen hard Saturday morning when I'm planning to try this, that might help.

Ken

BTW, BuzzardA91, we seem to be neighbors...I'm on Silkey Road in North Granby.

k0ua · Mar 13, 2013

Ken P said:
OK, thanks for the info folks. I'll look into what I can do to lighten the load. I'm also wondering if I can get the pallet up on some pipe rollers, maybe I could half push, half lift? Any ideas on something like that?

With luck, the ground will be frozen hard Saturday morning when I'm planning to try this, that might help.

Ken

BTW, BuzzardA91, we seem to be neighbors...I'm on Silkey Road in North Granby.

I have no doubt you could push or pull or skid it. Especially if you can lift 1/2 at a time and get rollers under it. If you can lighten it some you can likely lift it off the ground.

James K0UA

chin · Mar 13, 2013

you could probably keep tipping it over with your machine until it gets to its destination. Would this work or damage it? Please video this event for us