Charging system help

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truce

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Massey Ferguson Industrial 31
Replaced the alternator, still doesn't charge the battery. How do I identify and buy the correct regulator? It has a 4 cylinder Perkins diesel.
 
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The more information imho the better. Make, model, (year if known), information on alternator, etc.
 
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The VR on mine was located inside the hood under the tach. And iirc it had a 4 wire plug going into it. Now this was years ago but when I had my alternator rebuilt it wouldnt charge until I unplugged the VR. The alternator shop had built a self exciting/regulating one for it and forgot to tell me.

Unplug your regulator and just see if it works. Wont hurt to try.
 
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Massey Ferguson Industrial 31, 1973 or there abouts. The regulator has 4 wires, the alternator is new not rebuilt and has 3 wires. Battery, ground, and field. I think the current regulator is from a Ford car and since this is a diesel I don't think it will work. It has a 4 cylinder Perkins engine, the plate on the engine is unreadable but it starts with A4 xxxx. Trying to identify the engine I am guessing it is a phaser/1004 series. Am I right in assuming Diesel regulators and gasoline engine regulators are not inter-changable?
 
   / Charging system help #5  
Db Electrical shows this as the alternator which looks like a Delco to me except with a smaller pulley (it spins faster on low rpm motor). I'd just use a Delco one wire alternator putting a small pulley on it. They're available everywhere, simple, cheap.
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This particular tractor has a cable driven off the back side of the alternator to drive the tachometer so I am stuck with an external regulator. A car regulator fits the wiring harness but I am unsure if since it is a diesel if it will work.
 
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Electricity shouldn't care diesel or gas.
Just needs to be able to handle the alternator input and be able to handle to load.
 
   / Charging system help #8  
This particular tractor has a cable driven off the back side of the alternator to drive the tachometer so I am stuck with an external regulator. A car regulator fits the wiring harness but I am unsure if since it is a diesel if it will work.
You can obtain an electronic tachometer for reasonable $'s and probably most likely still ahead using that 3 wire alternator you now have vs rebuilding/replacing that cable driven one.
 

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