Chains Chains on front tires only VS. rear only

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Wyld Bill

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I searched & found some stuff about this but not what I was looking for.
If your doing snow removal what are the pros/cons of jsut running tire chains on front or on back?

I know the obvious like the front axle is weaker than the rear.
My thing is how much abuse does simply putting chains on front for the winter or maybe just for days that the driveway is icy really do?

Here is my situation>
Mahindra 2615 HST tractor with a rear mounted 70" snow blower.
1000' long driveway tarred first 400' dirt the rest of the way.
Driveway 10 to 20 degrees steep all the way.

I bought some rear tire chains last winter but they wouldn't fit without wheel spacers.

So problems with tire chains:

HEAVY,..these things would be a pain to put on compared to light front chains that I could use the FEL to jack up the front of the tractor to put on. Just moving them around in storage is a pain.

Need wheel spacers. That's going to cost me a bunch more money & make my already wide tractor even wider. Right now my rear blower is 10" wider than my tires & I like it that way.

Road cruising. Occationally I go up the road to help out nieghbors. I bet the tractor will right pretty rough with rear chains. With front chains I could take them off & on more easily.
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #2  
Yes it will ride rough!
Kinda hopity-hopity--

Why not look at studs? many snow contractors around here use them.
Bigger studs are available for tractor tires tha you see on cars plus you can keep them on all year long.
I know of one contractor that has over 1300 hrs on his and ALL his time is on asphalt surfaces as well most of his drives are very hilly and short= much stop and go.
Also he does about 3 miles on a paved highway to service his clients.
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #3  
Correct me if I am wrong, but my Kubota BX2660 4WD is actually only pulling with one front wheel and one back wheel. When stuck, I press the lever to lock the two back wheels together which is then actually 3 wheel drive (I have chains on the rear only). If I had chains on the front, I would have only one solid tire with traction. And YES the front axle and differential is weaker than the rear because it was never intended to be the solid drive for the entire tractor. I vote to never put chains on the front and especially never put chains only on the front.
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #4  
If I could only put them on one axle it would be the rear.I don't know if there is enough weight on the front axle with the blower lifted for front chains to help much. How far would you have to space out the rear tires. Are there different settings for rear wheel width.On alot of tractors there is.
Bill
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #5  
I've had chains on the front axle only for the 10 days that I've been waiting for the rear chains to come in and I haven't broken anything yet. Makes a world of difference traction-wise - we'd be dead in the water on our hill without them.

Ordering the set in March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November or December before the snow comes makes no sense of course. Instead, I wait knowing full well I'll need them until the major snow storm comes and then have to fabricate to size the closest thing in stock at the local tire dealer for the front wheels of my Deere 3320 so I can deal with the 40 year snow event. Woo-hoo!
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #6  
I'm using chains on the front only, it's a Kubota L35 and I have no doubt the front axle on this industrial TLB can take the limited extra stress the chains will exert on the machine.
I'm doing it this way for two reasons...the first reason is the same as yours..no room for chains on the rear without spacers, the other reason is the amount of use it gets here in SE Conn. usually we get minor snow with only occasional heavy snow fall...

I'm not worried about it, but I don't abuse my tools, careful judicious use of front wheel asist will help keep any wear to a minimum.;)
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #7  
Your going to get both sides here. Some say yes some say no. A couple of reasons I went with fronts chains only is. They are easier to put on and take off, they are cheaper in cost and they do help a lot with traction. Several years ago we had a major snow storm. I plowed for 21 hours straight with front chains on. At that time the tractor had about 300 hours on it. I eventually sold the tractor years later with over 2000 hours on it. Never had any problems with the front end.Fronts only are not going to give you the traction of rear chains, but are a cheaper easier alternative.

Sincerely, Dirt
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #8  
Correct me if I am wrong, but my Kubota BX2660 4WD is actually only pulling with one front wheel and one back wheel. When stuck, I press the lever to lock the two back wheels together which is then actually 3 wheel drive (I have chains on the rear only). If I had chains on the front, I would have only one solid tire with traction. And YES the front axle and differential is weaker than the rear because it was never intended to be the solid drive for the entire tractor. I vote to never put chains on the front and especially never put chains only on the front.
Both wheels on a differential axle pull as hard as the wheel with the least traction.
That is not the same as one wheel drive.
Yes chains on only one front would be practically worthless unless that wheel was the one that typically encounterd slippery conditions.
larry
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #9  
I have run chains on all four wheel for many years, the downfall is this. W/o a heavy weight on the back you can lift enough weight off the rear when bucketing to put a massive ammount of weight on the front axle. When doing so, the chains on the front take all the strain of the drivetrain. If they catch and dig-in you may break something. It happened to me with my 35 hp Kubota. Wasn't pretty. Cost me a pile of $$$$ to rebuild the front drive gear as Kubota couldn't get one.

Just a word to the wise, the easiest path may cost you the most. Buy a set of truck chains for the rear, less money and will help add some traction. That, or make sure you don't do any heavy digging with the front bucket when running front chains.
 
   / Chains on front tires only VS. rear only #10  
If your 2615 has the same tire-to-zerk spacing as my 2015, you may not be able to put chains on the front. If I were to put chains on mine (A4 tires), the chains would be real close to the grease fittings -- not worth taking the chance.

But, if you can run front chains, they work well. I ran them on a Yanmar and an Allis Chalmers 4WD (Hinomoto) for a number of years with no problems at all.

As for putting chains on the back, chain weight shouldn't be a problem as long as you can drag the chains out to the driveway. A couple of years ago 1948BERG posted a great way to easily put heavy chains on a tractor. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/94114-putting-chains.html

It's one of those "why didn't I think of that?" great ideas.
 

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