ceramic tile in pier&beam house??

   / ceramic tile in pier&beam house?? #1  

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I have a pier and beam house that had laminated hardwood in the kitchen. The fridge didn't close one time and the fridge condensated all over the floor and delamintaed the floor. I'd like to replace it with ceramic tile but I'm unsure you can do that with this type house. I'm sure with all the beachhouses around tile must be installed somewhere, but are they built different for ceramic tile?

Anyone know? TIA, Mark
 
   / ceramic tile in pier&beam house?? #2  
Mark,

I installed ceramic tile in our 70 year old farm house on top of an old wood floor. Before installing the tile, put down concrete backer board, then come in with the tile. We have really enjoyed the tile for many trouble free years now.
 
   / ceramic tile in pier&beam house??
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meadow, Did that create a much higher floor? How thich was the backer board? thanks
 
   / ceramic tile in pier&beam house?? #4  
First you put down the cement backer board. Home Depot, Lowes and most every tile store has it. If height is an issue, there used to be quarter inch available, but I haven't seen it in years. Hardiboard is half the thickness of standard cement board, but will cost twice as much.

What type of subfloor do you have? In California on the Pier and Beam homes I worked on, they had tonge and groove 2x6's with 5/8's particale board as the sub floor. I'd take off the particle board as it was usualy the probelem anyway, and attach the cement board to the 2x6's and be at pretty much the same height after installing the tile as the original floor.

When my parents first started putting tile down in our rent homes, they just used a mastic to attach the tile to the wood foors. I was miserable stuff, but we never had a tile come off. I don't know of anybody who still does this, or if you can still get that type of mastic, but the tile is still down in those houses 30 years later.

If your floor has any flex to it, tile wont stay.

Eddie
 
   / ceramic tile in pier&beam house?? #7  
Been doing tile here for around 24 yrs.
Use the 1/4" or 1/2" backerboard and use a good thinset as in FlexBond or VersaBond. When we install the backerboard we allways do a dry fit for all the sheets (cut to fit) Then do a thin layer of thinset and press the boards
into the wet thinset and we screw in down. Make sure you stagger joints in the sheets.

Ron.
 
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Thanks for the replies guys. I currently have 3/4 plywood with 1/2 engineered hardwood over that.

Tile, When you put the backer over thinset you are essentally gluing it down? Using flexable thinset. Will the grout stay in place? I wasn't much worried about the tiles moving or staying in place(now I am). I was worried about the grout cracking out. If the setting compound flexes, whay happens to the grout? Is there flex grout?

Thanks again. I've been mulling this over for years.
 
   / ceramic tile in pier&beam house?? #9  
When you put the backer over thinset you are essentally gluing it down?
Yep and also install screws while the thinset is still wet.

As far as the grout cracking out you should be fine maybe where it meets the base at the walls or at the cabinets but you can get colored caulk.

You could go for a epoxy grout but thats a job on the install part need at lest two guys cause once you mix it up you have about 30 min or less to get it out of the bucket and on / off the floor.

look around here for all the info you need for your install.
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Ron.
 

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