Century 3040 Subframe

[Jenkins003]

I just bought a Taylorway backhoe for my Century 3040 which I believe is the same as the Branson 4220. Does anyone know where I could buy a subframe for this tractor and about how much it would cost. Has anyone tried a backhoe just using the 3 point hitch ? I live in eastern Ky. Thanks.

 

[Chipperman]

I just bought a Taylorway backhoe for my Century 3040 which I believe is the same as the Branson 4220. Does anyone know where I could buy a subframe for this tractor and about how much it would cost. Has anyone tried a backhoe just using the 3 point hitch ? I live in eastern Ky. Thanks.

It depends what loader is on it.

 

[raeuber]

Using a 3 point hitch to mount a backhoe will limit your digging capacity as the lift arms are not as strong as a subframe mount. if you already have the backhoe, spend the extra money on a frame mount to use the full potential of the unit.

 

[Reg]

I just bought a Taylorway backhoe for my Century 3040 which I believe is the same as the Branson 4220. Does anyone know where I could buy a subframe for this tractor and about how much it would cost. Has anyone tried a backhoe just using the 3 point hitch ? I live in eastern Ky. Thanks.

I know they are no longer in business as American Jawa, but several years after the demise of the Century brand name the same folk were still in the same premises with the same phone number.
They had another business there, but maybe half the yard and warehouse had Zetor and Kukje parts, including hoes and sub-frames, loaders, buckets, etc.
It is where I bought my NOS (new, old stock) Amerequip hoe for my C42 (in red and black Century colors) and on a different trip a set of turf tires and rims for the same tractor.

The Amerequip 8600 hoe is a general OEM hoe and tower unit that bolts up to custom under frames.
IF (if, if) the Taylorway is same/similar you could probably design yourself a new set of bolt holes.
On the Amerequip they are all in one vertical plane (simple).
If you can get just the under frame from them..... well, you might need to get a bit creative from there, but at least you will have the part that mates up to the FEL frame and tractor's rear axle (actually the 3pt hitch lift arm pins).

American Jawa Limited
7301 Allentown Blvd
Harrisburg, PA 17112
Dauphin County
717-540-5618

Worth a call at least, tell 'em Reg sent Ya (-:

There are other posts here about them with names and I think an 800 number.

 

[Reg]

I just searched some old topics and pulled out the info I posted when I bought the turf tires, their new/different name and phone number;

CMC Sales and Marketing
6610 Norfolk Place
Harrisburg, PA 17111-0000
Tel: 717 649 2609

That was June 2008.
I am trying to figure when I bought the hoe, it was more recent than the turfs.

 

[Jenkins003]

Thanks Reg for your effort on this. I'll have to contact them and see what they still have. I found a Woods subframe for my tractor but it appears to be over 1200 dollars and that's not including shipping. I'm sure the ones from the old American Jawa are probably going to be close to that also and that's not counting paying someone to weld up some mounts to make the Taylor-Way adapt to these subframes. So this purchase may have to wait for awhile. I only paid 2500 for the backhoe which still looked like new. I don't have a FEL so I have to find out if these subframes will mount without one. I have the backhoe mounted on my 3 point hitch now and it doesn't drag my tractor around at all even without a FEL. Believe me I know all the warnings about using the 3 point hitch system. I never planed on using the backhoe for stumps or removing large rocks anyway. I do hope to get a subframe but it's going to be awhile at these prices. The only thing I am having problems with is the main boom on the backhoe doesn't seem to have a lot of lifting power. If anyone out there has a Taylor-Way backhoe maybe they can chime in and tell me if theirs is like this. Thanks everyone for your replies.

 

[Reg]

Thanks Reg for your effort on this. I'll have to contact them and see what they still have. I found a Woods subframe for my tractor but it appears to be over 1200 dollars and that's not including shipping. I'm sure the ones from the old American Jawa are probably going to be close to that also and that's not counting paying someone to weld up some mounts to make the Taylor-Way adapt to these subframes. So this purchase may have to wait for awhile. I only paid 2500 for the backhoe which still looked like new. I don't have a FEL so I have to find out if these subframes will mount without one. I have the backhoe mounted on my 3 point hitch now and it doesn't drag my tractor around at all even without a FEL. Believe me I know all the warnings about using the 3 point hitch system. I never planed on using the backhoe for stumps or removing large rocks anyway. I do hope to get a subframe but it's going to be awhile at these prices. The only thing I am having problems with is the main boom on the backhoe doesn't seem to have a lot of lifting power. If anyone out there has a Taylor-Way backhoe maybe they can chime in and tell me if theirs is like this. Thanks everyone for your replies.

I looked up the Norfolk Place address, it is almost certainly the home of the owner, who I met on one trip and I vaguely remember a comment that he lived very close by.

A 3pt hoe can certainly do a lot of work WITHOUT trashing the tractor.
Don't use the bucket to sweep dirt sideways to fill holes back in like the town guys do with the big excavators (-:
That trick puts a lot of weird side load on a 3pt and (IMO) is the trick most likely to break a 3pt set up.
Don't "walk it around the site" on the boom either, e.g. don't move the rear of the tractor sideways by pressing down on the bucket to lift the rear wheels off the ground and then swing the boom (-:
OK, this trick trumps side swing back filling for dumb stress raisers, not that I haven't done it, just that I have never done it with a 3pt hoe (-:

Hoe work is usually more about SMALL BITES than HUGE FORCE anyway, so just be gentle and don't rush projects - that is when we make mistakes and have accidents.
I think you can still use just about all the straight digging force and curl breakout force of the bucket on a 3pt. set up, just go easy on the swings.

Hmmm, what else ... ?
I guess any PUSHING with the bucket has same/similar effect on 3pt lift arms as backing the tractor with a rear blade - see other topics for tragic stories of what THAT can do )-;
Not saying you can't do some amount of it for back filling, without a loader you will probably have to, just saying (again) take small bites.

 

[Reg]

So, any progress ?

I just remembered this.
The Amerequip hoe (& I think many others) has "float" on the boom.
This is very useful for back filling in a way that is very gentle on the hoe and the rest of the tractor, restful on the operator too (-:
Basically you get lined up with the hole, fill dirt and tractor in that order in a more or less straight line.
You have to plan for this when you dig, actually when you dump the spoils.
Curl the bucket and lower it between the fill dirt and the tractor, float the boom by holding the left control lever forwards, then extend the dipper stick to have the bucket push dirt with no more down force than the boom/dipper stick/bucket weight.
You just push dirt with the back of the bucket, since it is rounded it glides up over anything that is REALLY heavy or stuck hard.
Most of the dirt gets pushed back and anything that gets stuck can be picked out with the bucket by pulling.