CC Shaft drive is not really shaft drive??

[pearlmanz]

I read this on another board...is this true? I am very dissapointed if this is the case and would feel mislead. Is this guy correct or just a CC trasher who owns a JD....grin. Read below.

One thing I'd look for on the Cub is the shaft drive... it isn't really a shaft drive. They go from the engine to a belt and then to a shaft. They advertise that there are no belts to slip or replace, but yet there is a belt. Kind of weird. In my book that isn't really a shaft drive.

 

[Baucom]

That depends. CC 2500's and 3000's have a driveshaft directly from the engine to the transmission, but the drive shaft for the mower deck on new 3000's does have a belt running down from the engine to the shaft to run the pto shaft. It is still a simpler and potentially less trouble prone system than found on their belt-drive decks.

 

[Fordlords]

I just updated my last post on the previous thread. The Cub 2500 and 3000's are 100% shaft drive to the transaxle- the single shaft goes directly from the engine to the hydrostatic pump on the transaxle.

The 2500's have a belt down to the mower deck through a PTO clutch. The Cub 3000's have a shaft to the deck.



-Fordlords-

 

[Baucom]

Fordlords,

I know the driveshaft to the transaxle is bolted directly to the engine, but how is the pto shaft driven from the engine? In other words, you can't bolt two shafts directly to the engine, so how is the pto shaft driven? This is where I was under the impression that a short belt came into play on 3000's.

 

[pearlmanz]

Amazing the amount of misinformation that is posted by people who do not like or own competitive brands. I thought that is what the dealer told me and one of the reasons I was drawn to the CC 2000 series as well as the build quality. Thank you for setting that straight guys.

On the plastic drain issue, I am not sure what model year this is I am buying as far as 2006 or 2007. CC is offering the GT2542 at a sale price like for 3100.00-3199 and he is selling to me for 3000.00 since we go to the same church and wants to add me as a new customer. So I hope this is not last years model as in 2006. I am a maintenance nut and it would be a pain to have trouble changing the oil. Thanks again for the great feedback guys, especially you Ford Man. You da man....grin. The PearlManZ

 

[Fordlords]

Fordlords,

I know the driveshaft to the transaxle is bolted directly to the engine, but how is the pto shaft driven from the engine? In other words, you can't bolt two shafts directly to the engine, so how is the pto shaft driven? This is where I was under the impression that a short belt came into play on 3000's.

I did have to look to update my last post. But, none of this information pertains to the Cub 2500 tractors the person questioning is looking at.

On the 3000's there are two short V belts that go from a pneumatic PTO clutch that go down to another pulley that drive the shaft to the deck. There is not an LGT tractor out there that has a 100% complete shaft drive system to both the transaxle and belly mounted mower deck. The deck belt drive used on the Cub 2500's is very reliable. On the $10k John Deere X700, the deck PTO clutch is a wet clutch, meaning it is inside the engine immersed in engine oil. A very reliable setup, but thinking in to the future, I'd still take the old style external dry clutch to having to take an engine apart to replace a PTO clutch.

The hour lifespan on the PTO deck drive belt on a Cub 2500 series is about 200-250 hours, and it's very easy to replace. I'd call that a relaible setup.

-Fordlords-

 

[Baucom]

I did have to look to update my last post. But, none of this information pertains to the Cub 2500 tractors the person questioning is looking at.

On the 3000's there are two short V belts that go from a pneumatic PTO clutch that go down to another pulley that drive the shaft to the deck. There is not an LGT tractor out there that has a 100% complete shaft drive system to both the transaxle and belly mounted mower deck. The deck belt drive used on the Cub 2500's is very reliable. On the $10k John Deere X700, the deck PTO clutch is a wet clutch, meaning it is inside the engine immersed in engine oil. A very reliable setup, but thinking in to the future, I'd still take the old style external dry clutch to having to take an engine apart to replace a PTO clutch.

The hour lifespan on the PTO deck drive belt on a Cub 2500 series is about 200-250 hours, and it's very easy to replace. I'd call that a relaible setup.

-Fordlords-

Thanks for clearing that up. That's what I thought concerning the 3000's, but I didn't realize the question pertained to only 2500's. I will agree that the 2500 deck drive setup is a reliable and easily serviced, my only point on the 3000's was that since the belts that run the pto are short and have no twists (I assume) that they may need less frequent replacement (at the expense of maybe being more difficult to replace--I have no idea because dealers around here don't stock 3000's).

 

[Mickey_Fx]

I'm starting my 4th yr on my Cub and still on the original belts for the pto.

Have an old Bolens tube frame with a sim setup but also has a pair of short belts to drive the trans shaft. Had the Bolen for 35 yrs and I don't think I've gotten to the 4th set yet. Maybe on the pto but I know I'm not up to the 4th set on the trans.

 

[TractorLarry]

Are we talking about drive only, or both mower and drive?

My 1864 has Mule Belt Drive for the Deck (works fine, actually).

However the Transmission is not only shaft drive, but apparantly the 1864 is the only model that has true CV joints at each end.

They call for special lubrication, and I have to figure out how to get to them

-Larry

 

[pearlmanz]

Larry the CC hating JD owner posted that the 2500 and 3000 series were not true shaft drive so not having purchased yet a GT2542, I wanted to make sure this guy was wrong as the advertised true shaft drive is one of the reasons I want to buy the CC GT2542. I know the deck is belt drive, I just wanted to make sure the actual drive was shaft and of coarse found out it is. I like FordLord don't see the need for shaft drive to the deck as well as to the differential. Thanks friend, The PearlManZ