Case DX33 or Cub Cadet Yanmar 3200

[Burns331]

I bought an acerage and need compact tractor.

The first is a 2001 DX33 with a L130 loader. It has 692 Hours. Also comes with a Woods RD7200 finish mower and 6' command blade. Everything i see says these are good little tractors. I havent read anything bad, but then there isnt a lot of info out there. Hes going to sell it to me for $12k. From what I can tell that is a decent price, especially with everything coming with it. The tractor looks new, hes an older gentleman with a beautiful home and property and takes care of stuff. The break out is 1602lbs and max weight to full lift is 800lbs.

The second is a 2010 Cub Cadet Yanmar 3200 with a loader, 60" belly mower and a 3pt snowblower for $11,000. It has 350ish hours on it. It looks to be a bigger and tougher tractor. Bucket can lift more, tractor weighs more. But its a Cub Cadet, who isnt really known for compact tractors. Looks to be in decent shape. Not all beat up. I dont like the yellow/black paint job, but not a deal breaker. The bucket break out is 2550 and max weight to max height is 900 lbs

Is their any real issues with these tractors? Or concerns, or reasons i should look at say a John Deere 1025 sub compact in that range. I see those in the same price range. They are good tractors, my father has one, but obviously alot smaller.

Let me know what you think please.

Thank you,

 

[sugarloafguy]

Hi,

I have a New Holland TC29DA/14LA loader/68SSQA bucket and PRD 7200 Woods mower. Same setup you are looking at but the 29 HP Shibaura motor and blue paint scheme. Exactly like yours less 4 horse and Rouge Red paint. I love this tractor, especially with Kubota SUDT2 Syn hydraulic oil in the transmission. Mine just turned 900 hours, Also have a TC24DA with 12LA and 914A rear discharge MMM. Mine both have the New Holland curved boom loaders.

While the Ex3200 is a nice unit, it is, for lack of a better description a John Deere 790 with hydro transmission and tweaks. Good looking unit but I find them cramped in the foot area and the loader is a little crude for my taste. Their mowers look decent and Yanmar makes a good engine. We had several with 30,000 hours @ US Foodservice in our TK reefer units that had never been apart. The color scheme is gross without a doubt.

No comparison here as far as machines go. Benz vs. Corolla. It it were me, the Rouge Red one would be my choice. Not sure about dealer/service but here Yanmar is not so great and farmers run green, red or blue. Parts are usually next day or two day and our dealer provides after hours service 365 days/year. The down side is CNH (both red and blue) is a premium product and parts are more expensive than Deere most of the time. Significantly more! Load the rear tires with Rim Guard in addition to the Woods mower and you will be fine.

Brian

 

[Burns331]

I appreciate the input. I want to want the Case as opposed to what i think is an off brand. But the specs of the Cadet/Yanmar seem better in almost every way?

Does the case have a float or load level control for holding postion on the bucket and the 3 point?

 

[MESSMAKER]

I think you have 2 pretty good choices. I don't think you can go wrong. I would see which one you can get service for if needed. If it is available for both, you are good. The 3200 is really a Yanmar tractor, which is very well thought of. They sell their own line of tractors now so I would think any dealer will be able to help you out. Looks like a great deal on either. I don't see how you can go wrong.

 

[woolyAcres]

As sugarloafguy pointed out the Cub Cadet is really a Yanmar and also nearly identical to the JD 790. So when it comes to parts I'd expect you could get most of what you'd need from a JD dealer could you not? Do you have any use/need for the snowblower? Seems to me the Case is a bit expensive for the size/hours/age, but if it's in great condition and depending on where you're located, it might be a good deal. Personally I think I'd prefer the MMM over the finish when it comes to actually mowing. Having said that when it comes to changing implements the rear finish mower might be preferable, unless you can operate most rear implements while leaving the MMM in place.

I'd probably lean toward the Cub Cadet. More tractor, less money. I had a old Yanmar 240D for a few years. Awesome little tractor. Is the Case a hydro?

My dad's got the NH TC45 with the LA16 loader. It's been a great tractor so really no bad choices here in my opinion.

 

[Burns331]

The case is Hydro. The picture of the Cub have the MMM and the loader both on at the same time which i thought was nice.

 

[Burns331]

So do you choose newer with less hours for less money and also less street cred, or do you choose more hours, slightly less lift capability for slightly more money. I want to choose the Case, i think they are a better tractor company than Cub, but the cub seems to kick the crap out of the case on this paper.

 

[Tompet]

I would take either over your third choice of a scut because it sounds like that is your overall preference size wise and definately since you used phrase acerage. Having said that and looking at specs (what tractor point lists) of both, I think in real world use you are comparing same size/capacity tractors.

So, have you sat on and looked at both in person? If not, that would be your best guide. Look at engine compartments, 3 point setup, tire wear between the two, ssqa on both, etc.

As others have stated, is a Case dealer close by? In the case of the Cub Cadet is a dealer around that used to carry them or Yanmar dealer close by to contact?

What's the removal on the Cub mmm mower? Drive over deck? Does the difference in attachments make any difference to you?

I agree as it's kind of a difficult choice, even though about twice the age and hours and grand more on the case. The only way I would decide is by sitting and checking out each in person. Maybe offer Case owner $11k.

 

[rScotty]

I bought an acerage and need compact tractor.

The first is a 2001 DX33 with a L130 loader. It has 692 Hours. Also comes with a Woods RD7200 finish mower and 6' command blade. Everything i see says these are good little tractors. I havent read anything bad, but then there isnt a lot of info out there. Hes going to sell it to me for $12k. From what I can tell that is a decent price, especially with everything coming with it. The tractor looks new, hes an older gentleman with a beautiful home and property and takes care of stuff. The break out is 1602lbs and max weight to full lift is 800lbs.

The second is a 2010 Cub Cadet Yanmar 3200 with a loader, 60" belly mower and a 3pt snowblower for $11,000. It has 350ish hours on it. It looks to be a bigger and tougher tractor. Bucket can lift more, tractor weighs more. But its a Cub Cadet, who isnt really known for compact tractors. Looks to be in decent shape. Not all beat up. I dont like the yellow/black paint job, but not a deal breaker. The bucket break out is 2550 and max weight to max height is 900 lbs

Is their any real issues with these tractors? Or concerns, or reasons i should look at say a John Deere 1025 sub compact in that range. I see those in the same price range. They are good tractors, my father has one, but obviously alot smaller.

Let me know what you think please.

Thank you,

I've been around compact tractors for many years now. What I think is that both of those are not premium models, but the owners are wanting premium prices for them.

The first thing you should know is that unless you happen to live on some island where those are the only compact tractors for sale, I have to say that both of those tractors you are looking at are both priced several thousand dollars too high....& maybe higher than that. I'm being generous. You can do better. Not because of their age, age doesn't hurt a tractor if it is taken care of. But because they are both brands that were never that popular and are not much seen anymore. If it doesn't work out - and it didn't for the sellers - your resale will be difficult even for a lower price. Frankly I can enjoy just about any compact tractor, but I wouldn't lay out my cash for either one over a more popular model even if those sellers dropped their price a few thou.

You'll see a lot of that type of deal offered. Go slow and careful. Also, implements - other than a loader - never add more than $500/1000 to a tractor's price. That is simply because implements last forever and there are a ton of used ones that work good as new.

I would be astonished if you could get parts - or even common maintenance items - from your JD dealer for an older Cub Cadet in spite of the fact that Yanmar built tractors for both companies.

BTW, old red and green Yanmars built by Yanmar and labeled as Yanmars are a completely different story on parts. The old ones aren't made anymore, but they were popular enough in their day that there are several aftermarket & used parts suppliers. I saw someone looking at an older Ford compact..that's OK. Older JD and Kubota are good enough that they almost constitute a secondary market in themselves.

You can do better. This is a tool you will use so often it will amaze you. So particularly for your first tractor I would go with a popular model even if it is a little older. Please do NOT buy a discontinued brand for your first machine unless your best friend just happens to be a tractor hobbyist, has parts, and likes that brand.. A discontinued model of a popular brand that is still around is OK.

Keep in mind that whoever originally bought those tractors did so with price as their main concern.....think about that...
good luck,
rScotty

 

[woolyAcres]

@Burns331- looks like Hoye Tractor does carry a very limited number of parts for the EX3200
EX32 Cub Cadet / Yanmar: Yanmar Tractor Parts

So if rScotty is right (which he probably is) and you're unable to get parts from a JD dealer you might be able to get some of what you need online.

rScotty is no doubt right about the asking prices on these, too high but I don't know your area so maybe it's in line with what else is available.

Something I should have mentioned previously is that sitting in/on and operating both machines should give you a much better sense of which one fits you best. Even if they were perfectly equivalent tractors in ability and price, the fit would most likely push one ahead of the other and you only know that by using each.