GManBart
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- Detroit, Michigan
- Tractor
- Massey Ferguson 241, Kubota SVL90-2
I've been working on getting my Massey 2244 crawler moving, and ran into a bit of a compatibility issue. The machine has a hydraulic shuttle shift which doesn't seem to be engaging. I drained the fluid, replaced the filters, and then put a new pump on it (was getting no flow out of the old pump). Unfortunately, the suction side filter is the older canister style, and after putting everything back together, the gasket won't hold pressure, after trying two different gaskets, and ensuring that channel was clear of old gasket material etc. I'm kicking myself for not just leaving the old gasket in place now!
I took the filter head off, cleaned the channel, ensured the gasket was fitting properly, then carefully reassembled it...multiple times. The machine will run anywhere from 10 to 60 seconds, and then the gasket will roll over/bulge, and oil blasts out of it. I had a gauge on the system and it was showing around 175-185PSI, which is correct for this machine according to the manual.
The shuttle shift filter, and engine oil filter are identical on this machine. I also replaced the oil filter, and that is holding pressure normally (although only 50-60psi). The engine is a standard Perkins AD3.152, and I know they make a spin-on replacement kit for the oil filter, but I'm not sure if an oil filter will handle the higher pressure, or if the bypass valve will just open up, and there won't be any filtering action at all. If that's the case I could just thread the input and output holes on the tranny case, and make a hose fitting so it's a simple loop with no filter, but I don't want to do that.
I'm also wondering if it's possible to find a hydraulic filter the correct size that doesn't have a bypass valve. The replacement spin-on heads are 3/4-16 thread, and the normal filter size for these heads uses a 5" tall filter, 3" diameter, with a gasket O.D. of 2.74" and I.D. of 2.37"....thoughts?
Here's the current setup:
I took the filter head off, cleaned the channel, ensured the gasket was fitting properly, then carefully reassembled it...multiple times. The machine will run anywhere from 10 to 60 seconds, and then the gasket will roll over/bulge, and oil blasts out of it. I had a gauge on the system and it was showing around 175-185PSI, which is correct for this machine according to the manual.
The shuttle shift filter, and engine oil filter are identical on this machine. I also replaced the oil filter, and that is holding pressure normally (although only 50-60psi). The engine is a standard Perkins AD3.152, and I know they make a spin-on replacement kit for the oil filter, but I'm not sure if an oil filter will handle the higher pressure, or if the bypass valve will just open up, and there won't be any filtering action at all. If that's the case I could just thread the input and output holes on the tranny case, and make a hose fitting so it's a simple loop with no filter, but I don't want to do that.
I'm also wondering if it's possible to find a hydraulic filter the correct size that doesn't have a bypass valve. The replacement spin-on heads are 3/4-16 thread, and the normal filter size for these heads uses a 5" tall filter, 3" diameter, with a gasket O.D. of 2.74" and I.D. of 2.37"....thoughts?
Here's the current setup:
