Canadian dollar = American dollar

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Kyle_in_Tex

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TV said for the 1st time in 31 years, they are equal.

This means that Canadians can buy stuff from America for less than it used to cost. (About 1/3 less compared to a few years ago.)

Just wondering if any of our Northern buddies are taking advantage of this situation?
 
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Yeah, just the other week we had a discussion at work on this very topic. Fellow colleague was seriously considering buying a car in the States & bringing it over. He was wondering about warranties, taxes, etc.

Although the Canadian dollar may be close to par with American, we still get smoked on big ticket items. I don't know what the Manufacturer's / Dealership's are thinking about...............GREED ?? :(


Vic
 
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kozak said:
Yeah, just the other week we had a discussion at work on this very topic. Fellow colleague was seriously considering buying a car in the States & bringing it over. He was wondering about warranties, taxes, etc.

Although the Canadian dollar may be close to par with American, we still get smoked on big ticket items. I don't know what the Manufacturer's / Dealership's are thinking about...............GREED ?? :(


Vic

Its simple... the cost of doing business is much higher. Canadian taxes are higher than they are in the US and that cost gets passed along to the customer in the form of higher cost goods.
 
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MessickFarmEqu said:
Its simple... the cost of doing business is much higher. Canadian taxes are higher than they are in the US and that cost gets passed along to the customer in the form of higher cost goods.

It is actually not quite that simple. The cost of doing business here is not quite that much higher than quite a few states - yet you don't see the disparity in pricing of goods and services quite to the same degree among states as you do today between Canada and the USA.

Additionally, companies also get the large benefit of not having to provide health insurance to their employees here as it is provided out of general tax revenues for the most part. Taxes are higher - yes - but so are the benefits. The cost of doing business here may be slightly higher than in the USA but not to the extent that would justify the difference in prices for USA imported goods.

Case in point - not many years ago when the CDN dollar was 60 some cents to a US dollar, goods cost MUCH less here. The cost of doing business here wasn't 40% less then than it is now. Buying cars and tractors in Canada to import to the USA was the thing that people did then.

There are many non simple reasons for the price disparity.

Retail prices tend not to be very elastic in the medium term and are typically set to what the market will bear.

In the case of tractors it is very important to note that the CDN $ has not gone up in value so much as the US $ has gone down in value against all currencies. So for good being imported from say - Japan - like my Kubota the real exchange rate that is important is the CDN $ to Yen. The US market will not bear a substantial increase in price of tractors in the short term. So this is more an issue of US prices haven't gone up rather than why have Canadian prices for tractors not gone down.

.... that said, many companies here import all sorts of good directly from the US at USA prices in US $ and in this case there is absolutely no good reason why the savings haven't been passed down to the customer other than the fact that they know that the market here has no reason not to bear the prices it has already been paying.

Kioti dealers for example import tractors from the USA and the benefit of the currency exchange rate is passed down to the customer.

Kubota Canada is a separate company from Kubota USA. I don't know if it imports directly from Japan or through Kubota USA at USA prices. If it is the former the Kubota Japan will want to be paid in Yen - which explains why the prices haven't dropped. If it is the latter then Kubota Canada is making a larger profit and benefiting from the exchange rate by not passing it down to customers.

In an ideal market, when goods are imported from the USA to Canada and resold to Canadians, there should be no reason that Canadians should not benefit / hurt when the exchange rates change.

Don't get me wrong here... I really do want to buy tractors for less money given the exchange rate. For all intents and purposes our markets are very tightly integrated so I don't think that the current situation makes much sense. Most imported (non north america ) products here are bought through distributers in the USA. The size of our market does not often make sense for a wholesaler to established here. In such cases, we are being ripped off.

The biggest problem I have is that we are supposed to have free trade but it becomes a hassle for the end customer we want to try to import something here. It is hard to find dealers that will ship up here directly so one has to arrange it himself... no warranty support etc. etc.
 
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I am in the process of looking for a BX24 or GC2310 and I will most likely be buying in the US. As I have mentioned in other posts, a local dealer here has quoted me $20,800 for a BX24 with no options. I could buy it in the US for much cheaper than this. The warranty issue is another way Kubota tries to protect the large profits they will make on CDN equipment. I understand that it may be more expensive to deal in Canada, but the difference right now is just greed. I have said before, if the difference in price was $1000.00, I would gladly walk to the nearest dealer and purchase here in Canada. I work hard for my money as I would suspect all of the others on this board do. Why should I have to pay almost $4000.00 more for my BX24 which someone in the US will? We are the answer to this problem, and it is up to us to get this issue fixed. There are those who just except that "this is just the way it is" and those who will force a change here in Canada. I am going to voice my opionion to the retailers in Canada by buying as many goods as I can in the US until they bring their prices in line. If others do the same, the prices will change.

I am tired of having all of the problems associated with parity (Loss of manufacturing jobs) while not having any of the benifit.

Do you know that there are some models of cars in Canada that can be over $20,000 more expensive in Canada than the US? Just go to the sites for Audi, BMW, and the other luxury brands and compare the US sites to CAD sites and it will make you want to vomit.

I'm am tired of working hard in Canada and having less for our money.

Cheers,
 
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canoetrpr said:
It is actually not quite that simple. The cost of doing business here is not quite that much higher than quite a few states - yet you don't see the disparity in pricing of goods and services quite to the same degree among states as you do today between Canada and the USA.

I agree. I work with a lot of Canadians and one time I started chatting income taxes with a guy from Alberta (oil-rich, with low provincial taxes). His total tax burden was not much if any higher than mine. Now, if he had lived in Ontario, his tax burden would have been far higher. There is a lot of difference between provinces. Also, as canoeptr noted, there are other factors. While Canadians usually pay more as individuals in taxes, their businesses don't necessarily pay more and of course they get the humongous benefit of not worrying about employee health care costs, which is killing manufacturing here in Michigan.

Mac, you may be right about the listed cars, but just 2-3 years ago all the autos clamped down on people from Michigan buying cars in Canada. Back then you could buy a Volvo luxury sedan in Ontario and save many thousands relative to the same car purchased in the US, after accounting for the exchange rate back then. This was true of almost all car brands at that time. It's a 2-way street.
 
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RavensRoost said:
Now that the dollars are equal, I certainly hope it does not increase the cost of what I pay for Moosehead beer, my fave, here in AZ.
RavensRoost

It should reduce the cost of a Bud Light though :)
 
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I know JD will. I am trying to find out about Massey. I went and looked at the JD and I like the BX24 better. I did not get to get some seat time on it though.

kubotafan said:
I understand Kubota Canada will not warranty a tractor purchased in the USA. What about John Deere or New Holland?
 
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I've been looking at used superharrows and used 60/70ft canadian brands Bourgoult,Brandt,Degelman are 18'000 - 23'000 I bought a brand new summers (Devils lake ND) for 22'000 it works for me .
 

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