Can I add rimguard myself ?

[radioman]

After reading several posts here, did a search on rimguard, did a search on liquid ballast, I am convinced that I prefer to have rimguard in my BX24 rear tires. My dealer prefer wheel weights, and he only carries calcl if I wanted to go that route. I sent email to rimguard for nearest dealer to me and asked them if I could purchase just the rimguard only so I can put it in myself with gempler's coupler. NO reply from rimgaurd company for a week. My question is this - has anyone ever attempted to fill their own tires with rimguard and what was your experience doing this ? I am a do it yourself kind of guy hence the reason i am asking if I can get rimguard as an individual somewhere local in NY state and not as a dealer. I prefer not to use WWF if I can help it, but may go that route if all else fails .

 

[CHDinCT]

Can't answer your Rimgaurd question, but if you go another direction, I'd take a look at the non-lethal RV antifreeze. Being an antifreeze, it should not rust your rims whereas WWF I think is water with alcohol added in (well that's my guess anyway). Neither is as bad as calcium cholride, but I think the RV antifreeze is better than WWF.

 

[BANDAMAN]

I had my BX 2230 tires loaded with rim guard in MI at my dealer when the tractor was brand new. I told my buddy in IA about it and he wanted it for his Lawn tractor. I went out and bought two new 5 gallon gas cans and filled them from the bulk Rimguard tank at my dealer. He charged me a very nominal fee for the 10 gallons....I hauled it back to Iowa and my buddy used a Shrader valve coupler he got at Wal-Mart or Farm and Fleet or somewhere to load the tires himself. I'll have to ask him exactly how he did it again, since its been a couple years. So its definitely possible to do it your self.

 

[Reg]

I did my own, $10 fill tool and a 25ft CHEEP plastic garden hose.
See other threads with my name and THIS topic.
Rimguard returned my calls and looked up the closest dealer from my zip code, I suggested that they put that dealer finder on their web site, as many businesses do these days.

Basically get 55 gallon drums and go buy it.
Put a jack under the axle on the side you want to fill, no need to raise it, just get most of the weight off so the tire doesn't collapse into the rim when you take the valve core out.
Well, maybe raise it enough to turn the wheel and get the valve at the top, after that you can lower it most of the way down again.
Set up a siphon with the 55 gallon drum in your loader, once everything starts raise the bucket as high as you can to maximize the flow - it will still be SLOW, so find something else to do. DO tie the barrel(s) into the bucket and DO be smooth with the lift and dump controls to keep the bucket floor as level as you can.
I got translucent barrels from a local car wash, which made it easy to glance up once in a while to see the sun shining through and check progress.

I forgot - DO set the parking brake and chock the rear tire that is still on the ground.
If you have a FULL 55 gallon drum raised to max loader height - probably over 600 lbs, you don't want that getting away from you.

 

[radioman]

Do anyone else concur that with 26x12.00-12 turf tires on the
BX24 would need about 10 gallons per tire? I speculate it wold be about 107 lbs per tire with rimguard. The total added wieght would be about 214 lbs. I probably will give rimguard a phone call instead of waiting forever for them to respond to my email. Let me know if my math is wrong - I been wrong before .

bandaman gives me a glimmer of hope that I could do it myself. My next step is finding a local dealer.

 

[JDeerekid]

Do anyone else concur that with 26x12.00-12 turf tires on the
BX24 would need about 10 gallons per tire? I speculate it wold be about 107 lbs per tire with rimguard. The total added wieght would be about 214 lbs. I probably will give rimguard a phone call instead of waiting forever for them to respond to my email. Let me know if my math is wrong - I been wrong before .

bandaman gives me a glimmer of hope that I could do it myself. My next step is finding a local dealer.

For ag tires that size it is 8.3 gals of rim guard which is 88.8lbs per tire. So I would guess you are close enough.

 

[Reg]

Do anyone else concur that with 26x12.00-12 turf tires on the
BX24 would need about 10 gallons per tire? I speculate it wold be about 107 lbs per tire with rimguard. The total added wieght would be about 214 lbs. I probably will give rimguard a phone call instead of waiting forever for them to respond to my email. Let me know if my math is wrong - I been wrong before .

bandaman gives me a glimmer of hope that I could do it myself. My next step is finding a local dealer.

I don't know, but the Firestone web site has a table - www.firestone.com/ag or www.firesoneag.com, not remembering right now.
10 gallons seems like a teenie weenie tire, so it is WORTH checking.


BTW, if you buy more than you can get in with the wheel still on the tractor - and feel like you WANT to get that leftover few quarts in, there is a "trick".

Assuming you can lay the wheel down - and get it up again afterward;
Lay a 4x4 down and lay the wheel on it with the 4x4 just clear of the rim and the valve high.
Be sure you WANT the extra weight more than you want the air cushion, although you will still have some cushion and if it is too harsh letting the surplus out is real easy.

 

[JDeerekid]

For ag tires that size it is 8.3 gals of rim guard which is 88.8lbs per tire. So I would guess you are close enough.

I got this right off of the Rim Guard website. So I would assume it has to be real close. Also that is not for an ag tire it is for and R4 industrial tire.

 

[Reg]

I got this right off of the Rim Guard website. So I would assume it has to be real close. Also that is not for an ag tire it is for and R4 industrial tire.

O/P was asking about turfs.
I know that my 17.5Lx24 R4s hold 50 gallons at 75% full, compared to the standard 12.4x28 R1s that hold 35 gallons.
I don't have the capacity of the 44x18.0x20 R3s for the same tractor, probably because they don't recommend liquid ballast for turfs.
I would guess them to hold slightly less than R4s, they are significantly less circumference and only slightly wider than R4s.

BTW the Firestone site is; Firestone - Choose Language

 

[Reg]

This;
http://www.firestoneag.com/tiredata/info/info_hydro_1.asp
Might be useful, scroll down to the bottom right hand corner to find the page turner.

It assumea a pump and shows a fill adapter with an extension into the tire that can still let air out when the liquid gets above the level of the valve.
I guessed that there are some cases where much more fluid and less air would be desirable and if I ever wanted to get as much fluid as possible OUT of a tire that would be the way to do it, so I tried to find a fill tool like that, but was quoted around $300.
The ~$10 one works well enough.