BX2350 Bagger
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c-and-a
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Hi bought my 2350 last August - with 60" MMM and bagger...bagger works very well on grass, and good on leaves. Here is the challenge - large amounts of leaves will clog the bagger, usually where the chute attaches to the MMM. In the fall, I ran over the leaves with the deck at the highest position and travelling very slowly...once I got the majority of the leaves up, I lowered the deck for final "grooming".
It does require very frequent emptying of the bags - this too was very time consuming for the large quatities of leaves I had.
I have a buddy who invested in tow-behind vacuum unit that has it's own gas engine - he loves it and it hold an enormous amount of leaves...doesn't work for me based on maneuverability
Hope this helps...
It does require very frequent emptying of the bags - this too was very time consuming for the large quatities of leaves I had.
I have a buddy who invested in tow-behind vacuum unit that has it's own gas engine - he loves it and it hold an enormous amount of leaves...doesn't work for me based on maneuverability
Hope this helps...
KeithInSpace
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Concur with Mr. C-and-A. It takes about 15 minutes to install...a bit of a pain...have to take the lifting bars off...but probably not much more than what you need to prepare to accept a BH, for example. Problem is it doesn't lift itself on...lining up the top link between the bagger and the tractor is the biggest PITA to me.
If you run in long, straight rows and don't need to work around trees or back up a lot, you'd probably be better off with a tow-behind something, either independently powered or a PTO version. They are much larger capacity, easier to dump, etc.
But I have been more pleased with the Kubota bagger once I replaced my shear pin with rolled steel pins...I was eating two Class 5 bolts each time I mowed, usually when a hunk of wood or a slug of leaves/grass went into the impeller all at once.
I can mow an acre and OFF leaf season, empty the bags twice...once in the middle and once at the end. Grass packs very densly. DURING leaf season, I'm either mowing every 3 days or emptying the bags 12 times. Literally. It sucks them up very well, but they don't seem to get chopped up enough to greatly reduce their volume. It's not that big of deal, though. Easy to empty. I can still get the whole job done in 2 hours as long as I haven't let it go TOO long.
If you run in long, straight rows and don't need to work around trees or back up a lot, you'd probably be better off with a tow-behind something, either independently powered or a PTO version. They are much larger capacity, easier to dump, etc.
But I have been more pleased with the Kubota bagger once I replaced my shear pin with rolled steel pins...I was eating two Class 5 bolts each time I mowed, usually when a hunk of wood or a slug of leaves/grass went into the impeller all at once.
I can mow an acre and OFF leaf season, empty the bags twice...once in the middle and once at the end. Grass packs very densly. DURING leaf season, I'm either mowing every 3 days or emptying the bags 12 times. Literally. It sucks them up very well, but they don't seem to get chopped up enough to greatly reduce their volume. It's not that big of deal, though. Easy to empty. I can still get the whole job done in 2 hours as long as I haven't let it go TOO long.
Volfandt
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I use a combination of gatorblades and a tow behind Cyclone Rake. I finish mow alittle over 4 acres and that combo I use doesn't require bagging on every cut.
Generally if I keep up on the cutting which is once a week the gatorblades disburse the clippings so well that bagging isn't necessary. That said, I do build yearly compost piles so I end up bagging around every 3rd or 4th mowing. When I do my bagging run, I side discharge (sans the CR) into several long windrows then mount the CR and go back & pickup the windrows. This way I'm not having to make constant dump runs to the compost pile whilst I'm mowing.
Leaf pickup is similar in that I side discharge into several windrows to avoid many trips then go back & pick up the clippings w/the CR.
re. the CR, I've got a long thread around here somewhere but I'll summerize. I have the smallest of the 3 CR models and it holds quite a bit more than a std bagger. But when collecting it's still to small, I recommend going with the mid size "Pro" at the least. It picks up everything I run over and isn't too bad to empty.
It connects to the 3PH and is a static connection, i.e. theres no pivot point so it is easy to manuver and theres no stretching or bending of the collection hose but it basically extends the length of the tractor by another 7' so getting into tight places is a PITA.
The 6hp B&S is VERY LOUD, it requires hearing protection (ear plugs included). I use an AM/FM full cup protector/radio and it does great.
It exhausts a large volume of dust etc and normally it's back and away from you but if you have to do alot of backing up to manuver you can back into the cloud so wearing of eye protection (included) is also recommended. I've gotten to where I wear safety glasses when I mow so this is not a big thing to me either.
All in all it works out great for me. When I was trying to decide between going with a bagger, Cyclone Rake or DR Vaccum I went with the CR as a happy medium. I liked the bagger because it was quiet but it was $$$'s and the DR because it has a solid hopper and the more expensive models also have the built in chipper also big $$$'s. The CR was the cheapest
Theres some that uses all three that I've mentioned with good results. The key to mowing and collecting clippings on large tracts, the way I see it, is to side discharge into several windrows then "enable" whatever collection system one utilizes and go back and pick the clippings up. This way it doesn't require so many time consuming trips to dump.
One of the pics is shows my 1st collection of this year beside a finished compost pile from last years clippings.
Good luck
Generally if I keep up on the cutting which is once a week the gatorblades disburse the clippings so well that bagging isn't necessary. That said, I do build yearly compost piles so I end up bagging around every 3rd or 4th mowing. When I do my bagging run, I side discharge (sans the CR) into several long windrows then mount the CR and go back & pickup the windrows. This way I'm not having to make constant dump runs to the compost pile whilst I'm mowing.
Leaf pickup is similar in that I side discharge into several windrows to avoid many trips then go back & pick up the clippings w/the CR.
re. the CR, I've got a long thread around here somewhere but I'll summerize. I have the smallest of the 3 CR models and it holds quite a bit more than a std bagger. But when collecting it's still to small, I recommend going with the mid size "Pro" at the least. It picks up everything I run over and isn't too bad to empty.
It connects to the 3PH and is a static connection, i.e. theres no pivot point so it is easy to manuver and theres no stretching or bending of the collection hose but it basically extends the length of the tractor by another 7' so getting into tight places is a PITA.
The 6hp B&S is VERY LOUD, it requires hearing protection (ear plugs included). I use an AM/FM full cup protector/radio and it does great.
It exhausts a large volume of dust etc and normally it's back and away from you but if you have to do alot of backing up to manuver you can back into the cloud so wearing of eye protection (included) is also recommended. I've gotten to where I wear safety glasses when I mow so this is not a big thing to me either.
All in all it works out great for me. When I was trying to decide between going with a bagger, Cyclone Rake or DR Vaccum I went with the CR as a happy medium. I liked the bagger because it was quiet but it was $$$'s and the DR because it has a solid hopper and the more expensive models also have the built in chipper also big $$$'s. The CR was the cheapest
Theres some that uses all three that I've mentioned with good results. The key to mowing and collecting clippings on large tracts, the way I see it, is to side discharge into several windrows then "enable" whatever collection system one utilizes and go back and pick the clippings up. This way it doesn't require so many time consuming trips to dump.
One of the pics is shows my 1st collection of this year beside a finished compost pile from last years clippings.
Good luck
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don716
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Volfandt, Can you post a couple of pics of your 66 Wheelhorse? I would like to see what it looks like.
Thanks, Donny
Thanks, Donny
Volfandt
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pintodeluxe
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I have had a couple of PTO baggers for the 2230. The style has changed a little with the 2350, but basically the same idea. Mounting the bagger on a level, concrete surface is key for me. I start by removing the lift arms and then bungee the lower TPH arms out to the sides. I tip the bagger forward to attach to the top link. Then pto shaft. Then remove bungees and attach lower links.
Flat concrete surface makes all the difference on my model.
Love the performance of the bagger. It will handle tons of dry maple leaves. Wet grass is easily bagged, as long as it is 6"-8" tall or less. Tall dry grass is easily bagged too. Several people complained about the capacity. I would argue that it is just right. Any larger, and the bags would be hard to lift. I would like to see Kubota use hard plastic bags that slide out (like craftsman baggers) because they are quicker and easier to use.
Besides that minor complaint, the Kubota PTO bagger beats most others hands down.
KeithInSpace
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My dad had a Crapsman bagger assembly on his last Crapsman mower, before he went to Chub Cadet.
The hard plastic "trash can" style bags didn't have any air flow through them...my dad said that they didn't fill nearly as "tightly" as the bagger wtih the mesh bags.
I've not given the mesh bags a thought. I've learned over the years that until the right-most bag (passenger-side bag) is completely full, there is no need to empty. It will pack the grass/leaves in there tighter and tighter until finally that last bag fills. I've gotten enough wet grass in there to make the front end of the tractor light when going up an incline...pretty impressive.
I still have a slight problem breaking shear pins (one every 4 mows or so), but since I started retaining them with wire, they've lasted much longer.
pintodeluxe
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I once broke a shear pin after washing my tractor. I took off the bagger tube and sprayed water up the bagger impeller to clean out the grass residue. Evidently I engaged the rear PTO before the impellar casing had drained, because it snapped the shear bolt instantly. I have only broken three shear bolts on the bagger in three years, so I guess that's not bad. It always breaks the odd bolt inside the bagger gear housing. That's the one you won't find at your local hardware store. My dealer said it was okay to bore out the hole and install a regular grade 8 bolt, but I havn't found that necessary yet. I just keep a half dozen ready in the tool box.
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