BX22 4-way valve or 3-way?

[UncleAl]

Had my new BX22 for a few days... wow! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
They're in very short supply and my dealer got what seems to be the last available machine in these parts.

I am confused about the loader valve.
I had asked for the 4-way valve but dealer told me he couldn't get one with it, so I settled for what he said was 3-way on this tractor. However, the bucket will "fast dump" (free fall) when lever is pushed fully to the right, so I'm not sure which I have... I was hoping my TBN BX brothers/sisters might help to identify by numbers on the valve.

My numbers from the plate on the valve:
HUSCO
K02A3890 05
7J240-61011
9210-83F

I got a copy of the parts book from TractorSmart, it only gives Kubota part number, no help. (BTW, they have free PDF parts books for download, please don't pay $40 for a printed copy like I have seen some do! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif)

 

[KWentling]

The numbers on my valve are different. It is a Husco valve with the following numbers:
DOZA3090 05
75532-62011
9210-B4 F
My understanding of valves is that 4-way valves are used for double acting cylinders and 3-way for single acting cylinders or motors. I'm sure you have a 4-way. Not sure why you have a different part number. Maybe they were refering to the number of spools?

I looked at Tractor Smart and couldn't find where to download the parts book for a BX22. Could you give me some help?

 

[techman]

I would have the dealer backorder the 4-way for you and swap it out, and be sure he only charges you the difference. Some members have decided to change after the fact, and it becomes a big bill at that time.

The 4-way is useful if you ever decide to get a snowblower or a hydraulic blade. Except for a small price difference, there is no disadvantage to the 4-way.

paul

 

[joec]

I think you have to request it and they will e-mail it to you.

http://www.tractorsmart.com/enter.htm

 

[joec]

Click on parts....Then click on "complete Kubota price list"...then "don't know my part number".
I think you have to request it and they will e-mail you a copy. Hope this helps.
Joe

http://www.tractorsmart.com/enter.htm

 

[UncleAl]

Parts books for Bx22:
This one will give you BX22 and associated parts (FEL,BH,MMM)
http://www.tractorsmart.com/books/bx22.htm
You can subsitute model numbers as well for different tractors. A couple of others I tried are:


http://www.tractorsmart.com/books/bx2200.htm
http://www.tractorsmart.com/books/b2910.htm

Others may work, experiment for yourself. (Don't try www.tractorsmart.com/Books, you will get an error message. ) If you can't find what you need, you can always ask them to e-mail you the proper address.

(I hope I'm not stepping on toes by sharing it with you guys, I went the "e-mail request" route and just tried several others, please correct and forgive me if I'm wrong! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif)

 

[KWentling]

Thanks for the Tractor Smart links.

Just what is this "4-way valve." How do I know if I have it?

 

[UncleAl]

Kim, Thanks for your reply.
I rechecked my numbers, (better light than at 0600 this am, my eyes are not what they used to be.)

Mine: K02A3898 05 7J240-61011 9210-B3 F
Yours: D0ZA3090 05 75532-62011 9210-B4 F

I'll bet the first number is a serial number, maybe the first part of the middle number as well. The second part of the middle number (61011 vs 62011) and the last number (B3 vs B4) may be the keys to the difference.

If you push your joystick all the way to the right, does the bucket fall quickly (like a free fall)? My bucket will fall until it hits the stops. From what I read on other posts here, I think this is the main difference for FEL with 4-way vs 3-way valve, (supposedly 4-way allows quick dump, 3-way doesn't) but if I have the 3-way valve and it will quick dump, maybe there is no FEL difference after all.....

As explained by Techman and others, a 4-way is an advantage for implements like snow blowers. Where I live, snow blowing is really a non-issue, but I like to know what I have onboard.

 

[KWentling]

UncleAl: Mine does have the fast dump. I have it disabled right now trying to solve an air in cylinder problem. (see: air in cylinder? thread) Believe she's going to see the dealer soon. 127hrs.

 

[UncleAl]

Kim,
OK, so I will make the following assumptions unless convinced otherwise:

<ul type="square"> [*]I do indeed have the 3-way valve as my dealer asserts. [*]There is no functional difference in 3-way versus 4-way for FEL control. Fast dump is common to both types. [*]The paragraph in the FEL manual (page 10, right column) that talks about the "regular" dump and "second" dump positions must be an admonition to not use the "second" position for other implements if you have the 4-way valve.[*] As I have no present or anticipated future need for a snow blower, I can safely put this concern to rest and get back to digging. [/list]
Thanks for your efforts on solving this mystery. I hope you get your cylinder woes taken care of soon.