BX Series 50hr service

[JOHNTHOMAS]

You know the earlier manuals on earlier BX's and B's had change at 50 up thru the BX2x50 series. Apparently Kubota changed the 50 hours on L's then on the BX2660. B3200 also does not have change fluids at 50 hours which was bought a couple of months before the BX2660 last spring. Did they change something in the Fluid, did they change something in the tractors or did they just finally decide it wasn't needed as happens alot with companies that do extensive research of their products? I don't know. They provide SUDT in the machine at their expense, I know we pay for it but you know what I mean. Then they are now saying don't give us the money for the 50 hour change. OK, you that believe all corporations are conspiring to make their equipment die quickly so you'll buy another just settle down. Same is said about car manuf even though cars are going further miles before death than ever before even with recommended oil changes at 7500 miles on some cars instead of 3000 and here you say ah ha they would go a million miles if the oil was changed every 3000 miles and 2 million if changed every 2000 miles. Anyway, back to Kubotas different messages. I find often, very often, that people quote/equate a dealer, dealers employee, customer on the lot, delivery driver, parts person as Kubota. If they ask someone on the lot and he/she says it's a misprint then it's broadcasted, sometimes, that "Kubota says". There are also different machines and there does seem to be different answers for different machines and I don't have the foggiest idea why that would be but it seems like it is. Both of mine, BX and B, changed to not required at 50 hours on machines purchased last spring. So, I asked the Company to give me an answer on the BX2660, BX25 and F2680E specifically, since that's what I own now. I will copy what they send and post it.

REPLY FROM KUBOTA
John, the person or persons from TBN do not know what they are talking
about. There has not been a Service Bulletin or even a notice sent to the
dealers that this is a mistake in the Operators manual. Kubota Tractor
recommends for you to follow your Operators manuals for servicing of each
unit you have. The BX2660 and the BX25 do not have to have the transmission
fluid change until it reaches the 400 hour mark. For the F2680, it is the
200 hour mark. The transmission oil filters need to be replaced and the
suction strainers cleaned at or before the 50 hour mark for all three
units. Your selling dealer can also assist you if you have any questions in
regard to servicing your tractors. Thank you for purchasing and contacting
Kubota Tractor Corp..

 

[amg280]

Thanks John,

My 09 BX2660 is approaching the 50 hr mark soon. Looks like I just saved me some cash

Andy

 

[rdsaustintx]

I'd change it anyway. Nothing has changed on the machines.

Skipping the first fluid change is just a combination of marketing and enviromental do-gooding.

Same with newer cars. Manual says don't let them warm-up (to make the EPA happy).

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Thanks John,

My 09 BX2660 is approaching the 50 hr mark soon. Looks like I just saved me some cash

Andy

Same for me. I'm not changing mine either. My dealer is providing my first 50 hours supplies but I'm still not changing the fluid even if it's free. I guess I can give up the past easier than some. It's over and today is what we got and looking ahead to better things tomorrow. Wow! Haven't color TV's come a long way since 1965.

 

[TripleR]

I figure the people who design and manufacture them know better than I, so I have no problem following the Manual on any of my vehicles as to maintenance or break in.

 

[bp fick]

JohnThomas, PURE SPECULATION, but what do you think?

Does the change from 50 hours hst fluid dump have any connection to Kubota going to Sudt? I know, I know, highly speculative and don't want to start anything, but it does seem to show confidence in sudt as a fluid capable of lasting?

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

JohnThomas, PURE SPECULATION, but what do you think?

Does the change from 50 hours hst fluid dump have any connection to Kubota going to Sudt? I know, I know, highly speculative and don't want to start anything, but it does seem to show confidence in sudt as a fluid capable of lasting?

My Avatar is my first Kubota. A BX2200 bought in 2003. I'm almost certain it came with SUDT and I replaced it with SUDT. I don't know how long before that that Kubota was installing and recommending SUDT but I know it has been for at least 6 years. If the change is because of the performance of the SUDT then to me they have given it a fair period of time to prove it's effectiveness. I know I do things different, see things different and hear things different now than 20-30-40 years ago. Machines, electronics, etc change and usually for the better as far as longevity and even comfort and usability in my opinion. I can't think of a possible reason for Kubota to change the 50 hour service unless they have a very good logical reason. None. Not a single one. I believe they have proven to their satisfaction that with extreme service that the fluids do not need to be changed at the first 50 hours and if that's the case then I believe they feel extremely confident that for those of us that don't try to destroy them every time we use them that this early change of fluid is not needed at all. We sometimes think in 10-20-30 years but a big corporation usually thinks in terms of 100 to 200 years of being in business. With this change in fluid schedule, are these machines going to tear up in 10 to 15 years because this fluid wasn't changed at 50 hours? I think not. Kubotas sell on price and reliability and I think that is important to them as a company. No company is perfect and Kubota isn't. I think they are as good or better than other tractor companys but not perfect no more than NH or JD are perfect. I don't look at the other forums but I feel convinced that there are disgruntled owners of those brands that have some issue of dissatisfaction that seems big to them and those companies are not changing their plan of operation for doing business for a few disgruntled buyers. In my mind........engineers recommended a first change at 400 hours but the CEO and his insecure menions said no and over rode the engineers. I believe they have since retired all those guys and a hydraulics engineer has finally been promoted to CEO and the day he became boss he said "Change the owners manual like I recommended/told you 20 years ago, those changes at 50 hours are not needed and never were, do it and do it now"!!

 

[oldballs]

At 50 hrs, I followed the manual with no HST fluid change....only the strainer, which did not have any shavings that I could see or feel. The fluid does have to be topped off after that, even with BP's stopper method. Heck, I'm wanting to be efficient but not foolish. And besides....my degree is in Philosophy and Microbiology....not engineering.