Brake Shoe Riveting.

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2004 Workhorse 2840
An attempt to rivet new brake material to brake the shoes.

 
   / Brake Shoe Riveting. #2  
Nice video. You did good! :thumbsup:
I remember when I did that kind of work I started from the center and worked outward, and would use small screws and nuts to hold the lining in place until it could be riveted. Of course I had the privilege of having a shoe arcing machine and a riveting machine too. Plus the shoes and lining were much bigger which made them easier to handle. Small shoes like that are difficult to manage. It will be interesting to see how the JB Weld keeps the ends down.
 
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Nice video.
I remember when I did that kind of work I started from the center and worked outward, and would use small screws and nuts to hold the lining in place until it could be riveted. Of course I had the privilege of having a shoe arcing machine and a riveting machine too. Plus the shoes and lining were much bigger which made them easier to handle. Small shoes like that are difficult to manage. It will be interesting to see how the JB Weld keeps the ends down.

It will be interesting how the JB Weld holds up. Just applied it minutes ago. So noon tomorrow for disassembly. It's 90-95 in the garage so it will cure quicky.

My arching machine is a bench belt sander. Nice to have the correct tools. I think this will hold up ok.
 
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The JB Weld did not hold. I did clean all of the shoes off with just brake cleaner. Should have also used acetone or even denatured alcohol. So I chipped off the glue from the shoes and the brake material. Once the brake cleaner dries off of the brake drum and brake housing, I'll test fit the shoe assembly to see how they fit the radius of the brake drum. Certainly the ends of the shoes will probably need to be ground down and chamfered some more.
 
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I haven't seen riveted brake shoes for years!. now, they are glued on!.. rivets do nasty scoring to the drums when they contact, so you have to replace the shoes much sooner than on a glued shoe!..
 
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I haven't seen riveted brake shoes for years!. now, they are glued on!.. rivets do nasty scoring to the drums when they contact, so you have to replace the shoes much sooner than on a glued shoe!..

On my 2004 Foton 254a, the shoes wear down to a point well above the rivets, then they stop making contact with the drums even with full outward adjustment. At least on that model and year, the pads wear out before any drum damage can occur. Can't speak for any other year and model.
 
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I've remade new brake bans for an old crawler tractor by riveting the brake material on the bands and it went well. I was very pleased with the results and worked perfectly.

A bit tricky to drill the brake material as the drill will grab just make a mess but doable.

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I've remade new brake bans for an old crawler tractor by riveting the brake material on the bands and it went well. I was very pleased with the results and worked perfectly.

A bit tricky to drill the brake material as the drill will grab just make a mess but doable.

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I used a 3/8" Forstner bit. No grabbing at all. $10-$12. Glad to hear someone else has re-lined their brakes !!
 
   / Brake Shoe Riveting. #9  
I used a 3/8" Forstner bit. No grabbing at all. $10-$12. Glad to hear someone else has re-lined their brakes !!

I had no choice. No parts available at all for a 1962 Toselli 28hp crawler tractor, whose company was bought by two or three other companies.

Thanks for the tip on the bit. I'll keep that in mind if I ever need to work on brake drums or band again.
 
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Test drove the tractor a couple of times. The brakes received some adjustment this morning. Left brake is just a bit tighter than the right. As it wears in it will operate closer to the right brakes capability. Sure nice to have both sides working at the same time !!
 

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