Box Scraper Box Blades

BrokeFarmerJohn · Mar 21, 2018

I’m in the market for a box blade and had some questions/concerns.

1. Which box blades are best?

My tractors are: John Deere 455 (21hp 2x4) and John Deere 4320 (48hp 4x4)

I’m only buying a box blade for one tractor not both, have not decided which yet.

I had my eye on the everything attachments xTreme 72in for the 4320 but did some comparing to woods 72in, Bush Hog 72in etc and the EA box comes in light, compared to the woods it’s half, 510lbs vs over 1000lbs, bush hog is over 600lbs etc. based off what each company rates their box blades for at least an 4x4 48hp tractor.

Which is the best value? What do you have?

bcp · Mar 21, 2018

Compare several different models of each brand.

Here's an EA 72 inch at 775 lbs. They make lots of different weights in each width, up to about a ton for a 78 inch.

Severe XTreme Duty Hinged Back Box Blade Box Scraper - Everything Attachments

In MY ground, a blade of 75 pounds per foot width will fill very quickly. In other places it may just bounce.

Bruce

BrokeFarmerJohn · Mar 21, 2018

bcp said:
Compare several different models of each brand.

Here's an EA 72 inch at 775 lbs. They make lots of different weights in each width, up to about a ton for a 78 inch.

Severe XTreme Duty Hinged Back Box Blade Box Scraper - Everything Attachments

In MY ground, a blade of 75 pounds per foot width will fill very quickly. In other places it may just bounce.

Bruce

That’s a 50-70hp rated box blade by their rating, according to them it’s overkill for my tractor.

So either they over engineered to use less material for the same HP rating or they over rate their box blades compared to other companies.

Either way I’m in the market for the best value, each company seems to rate their boxes a little differently.

bcp · Mar 21, 2018

Their 50hp isn't much different than your 48hp.

Anyway, is their any way you could borrow or rent a blade to get an idea what weight/foot is needed to work well for you? Will a local dealer give you a trial period?

After that, look at construction design and details.

Bruce

BrokeFarmerJohn · Mar 21, 2018

What about sizing the Box Blade? What’s too big for a 2wd 455? What’s too big for 4x4 4320 with R4s? What’s the sizing rule?

I’m looking for the heaviest, best designed box for the $$.

Texasmark · Mar 21, 2018

I see you are sporting a FEL on your Avatar tractor. I initially couldn't afford a FEL tractor and resorted to a box blade and the adjustable single blade like is used by county road maintainers. I haven't used my BB since. The FEL with a bucket does a superior job of doing the jobs for which I previously used the BB. However, one thing I did learn about a BB is that "weight matters". Get the heaviest you can, or add weight to a light one. I welded OTR truck axles onto mine before I quit using it, about 4 of them.

darmstrong2319 · Mar 21, 2018

I have the EA hinged back box blade I think it’s 815 or 835 pounds don’t remember now but it’s 78” and it work great. I use this on a 40 hp tractor and the way it’s built I couldn’t hurt it If I wanted to.

Z-Michigan · Mar 21, 2018

I have a Woods BSM72 for my Kioti, which compares closely to your 4320 in horsepower and weight, and it works great and is plenty rugged enough for my uses. 680lbs. Specs:

Product Details

I don't want to be a brand cheerleader for anything, but Woods always seems well made for anything, and especially for dirt-work type implements.

I bought a PHD from EA and it is well made and meets my expectations for the price, so I have nothing bad to say about EA either.

Most companies rate implements by tractor horsepower, but in reality tractor weight and tire type make much more difference for CUTs. Since your 4320 is neither exceptionally heavy or light, I would not worry about an implement rated only up to 50hp, or one rated for 50hp and up. A while back I had a Deere 5105 which was a full utility, and despite the 45hp rating it had traction well above CUT levels, which contributed to two implements rated for its hp being damaged in ordinary use. (Marginal construction of these implements, both from expensive US brand names (though the green one was actually made in Mexico), also contributed.)

BrokeFarmerJohn · Mar 21, 2018

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/59301-box-blade-photo-comparision-brands-21.html

I just ran across this, when I get some time I’ll see if there’s any good info on box blades in there. Not much in there about EA BBs that I could see but didn’t have a lot of time to read into it. It’s 24 pages lol.