4tillingdirt
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After seeing this video, wondering if anyone has looked at the FEL controls on their tractor. Is this type of loader control pretty consistent among most brands? LS XR4155 compact tractor loader no workie - YouTube
Best loader controls on compact tractor
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No, it's not common.
mopardude318
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Wow. I don't know how I feel about that design...
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4tillingdirt
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Yeah, me either. Seems like a piss-poor design.
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LS likely just buys those in. I doubt they make them. It's just one style of remote actuation. A drop of loctite can take care of the loosening.
I don't think much of the cable actuators for the long haul. Moisture can freeze them up in winter, and rust is a given where they loop down.
Cables do provide for easy positioning of the control though.
I don't think much of the cable actuators for the long haul. Moisture can freeze them up in winter, and rust is a given where they loop down.
Cables do provide for easy positioning of the control though.
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4tillingdirt
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The guy in the video made a comment about the loader didn't like doing multiple movements at one time - like curling while raising, etc. Seems like that would be a limitation of that type of control would it not?
scdeerslayer
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That's really not uncommon for small tractors, regardless of valve type. The fluid flows to the path of least resistance. Having such a low flow rate on small tractors makes this even worse. Feathering the valve can help though. I find this is less of a problem when dumping/lifting at the same time and then curling/lowering at the same time, the biggest problem is curling/lifting at the same time.
For the valve in the video - are the two lines that look like hydraulic lines the cables that control the valve that's under the floorboard?
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4tillingdirt
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Not sure about the lines. I had been watching this guy's videos since he had a tractor I was interested in and he has pretty much changed my mind for me - LOL.
1stDeuce
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I have a 2003 Massey Ferguson that has almost that same loader control. I don't think I'd run away from it based on one guy on Youtube. His dealer is likely at fault for this one, not the tractor or style of control.
I can tell you that many of the tractor mounted loader controls are cable actuated. If you want a stick coming right off the valve, it'll be mounted up on the loader. I wanted the tractor one because I have shoulder issues with my arm extended all day. I'll service the cables once in a while and they'll work fine.
The cable actuated valves work EXACTLY the same as lever actuated, so any strangeness with how the loader operates isn't the cables, it's the valve, or just physics. (If you open two valves at the same time, like lift and curl, flow goes to the one that happens at a lower pressure. Sorry, but that's how hydraulics work. If you feather that one, you can also do the other by artificially raising the pressure in the easy to actuate loop by making a restriction.)
It's tough being an engineer in what is more and more a world of "magic" as far as most people are concerned...