best grapple for a 4410?

ebeb · Apr 28, 2004

Any recommendations on a grapple for a 4410?

Is a 4 in 1 bucket a solution (have a 430 on order)

Eric

JoelT · Apr 28, 2004

Eric

I had a 4in1 ordered for my4310 with a 430, but swapped it for a 5' grapple rake. Anbomanufacturing.com is a place to look. JDeere sold me one called Bodozer but I think it's the same unit. Anyway I've messed with it a bunch this last weekend (just got it) and am amazed at what it can do. Keep your regular bucket and get a grapple rake if you can. You will not be disappointed.

Joel

ebeb · Apr 28, 2004

what price did you pay, is it a simple mount to the front of my 4410, do any of your local places rent a grapple

thanks!

JoelT · Apr 28, 2004

I paid $2850, possibly $200 more than if you deal direct with Anbo. It's a 2pin quick release just like the bucket plus 2 quick disconnect hoses. Very fast. Never have seen one for rent B4 so don't know the renting options.

Joel

Boiler74 · Apr 28, 2004

I bought a grapple attachment from a guy on ebay that is working great. It's only 18 inches wide, but I'm doing a ton of work with it and have few complaints. I did have to beef up the front a little, but other than that, it worked great. Of course, I'm moving trees more than brush. I'll attach a few pictures so you can get an idea. Watch ebay and you can probably find him. If you can't, I may be able to find some contact info.

The grapple was around $400 or so, and then you have to run hydraulic lines, which isn't cheap. I think I spent close to $200 for all the lines and fittings I need to run to my rear SCV.

Boiler74 · Apr 28, 2004

Another picture.

Boiler74 · Apr 28, 2004

Another

Boiler74 · Apr 28, 2004

Last one to show you my ballast box, which has about 1200 lbs. in it.

Boiler74 · Apr 28, 2004

Don't know if this link will work, but this is the guy that sold me mine. Names Andy.

J.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=50908&item=3812385974&rd=1

ebeb · Apr 28, 2004

so that grapple just attaches to the top of your FEL (mine is a 430) and then grips it against the FEL?

is there a deere option like this?

eric

Boiler74 · Apr 29, 2004

Yes, it just bolts on. Or you could weld it. I have a heavy duty bucket, so the top is reinforced. If you didn't have this, you would need to reinforce it. One thing is that there were no holes drilled in the mounting plate, and it took a good sized drill press to drill the 4 holes. He uses 1" steel.

I've never seen a JD option for this. There are other companies that will make a bolt on grapple, but for a lot more money.

If you are interested in this one on ebay, I would have him put another cross member closer to the end of the grapple. Just e-mail him and talk to him about it. You don't have to buy through ebay. And if you want, I could take some close-ups of the reinforcing I did to give you an idea.

J.

AuCivil · Apr 29, 2004

Does the bodozer mount to the loader like a bucket? Quick attach?

Greg

JoelT · Apr 29, 2004

Greg

The Bodozer mounts exactly like the quick release bucket but with 2 quick release hoses too.

Joel

ebeb · Apr 29, 2004

boiler, can you compare the bodozer/anbomanufacturing with the ebay one you showed pictures of? i like $400 vs $2850 in price, and only having one attachement vs two.

spoke with the ebay grapple guy, very helpful and will basically custom make it for my bucket

advantage vs disadvantage?

Boiler74 · Apr 29, 2004

I really can't compare considering I don't own anything else. I can tell you that I like that this just bolts on my bucket, and that it can be done by one person. So you can take it on and off when you like. I'm not sure how the grapple would work without the bucket tines that I also have. Might be something that you'd want to think about adding as well. But, it may work well without them. I can't say. I've never tried.

I just wanted to let you know this option out there. I shopped all the expensive attachments, but decided to try this. And I'm happy with it. Actually couldn't imagine doing this work without it.

ebeb · Apr 29, 2004

i have ordered the ebay grapple from Andy, will keep you posted how i do. i can order and install the tines on my bucket for teeth if I find I need them.

Thanks again for the recommendation!

Eric

Boiler74 · Apr 30, 2004

Congrats. I'm sure you'll enjoy it AND the extra money you have in your pocket. A few things. If you know you're going to bolt the grapple on, and don't have a large drill press, have Andy drill the holes for you. Also, when you go to run your hydraulic lines, you'll probably have to get the lines made. I took a garden hose and some sacrificial zip ties and ran the line the way I wanted. Remember that one line will be a little longer than the other because of the cylinder. I then took a sharpie and marked where I wanted it to start, stop, and where I wanted any quick disconnects. Then just lay it out straight and measure. For the quick couplers, I put a set where the hydraulic quick couplers are for the loader, so I can disconnect/connect the lines together when I take the loader off. And then I put a set up front near the grapple, so I could take the grapple off easily, but not have to pull all the lines. As for the lines, I just followed the existing lines for the loader as much as possible.

Oh, I assume you're going to hook into a rear SCV? If that is what your doing, you're may need to get a set of coupler tips from your dealer to plug into them. I couldn't find them elsewhere.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.

Josh

ebeb · Apr 30, 2004

thanks for the advice on all of this, but I am taking plan "b."

Having the dealer put this on my tractor for me, welding it on.

(remember, this is a brand new tractor that I purchased a week ago)

thanks again. Now, off to find where I can spend the money i saved....