Barn wiring and home automation

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lhfarm

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I posted questions about using conduit in my barn last winter - http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/rural-living/161801-conduit-pole-barn-corners.html . Just now finishing up and wanted to post a follow-up and talk a little about how I'm using home automation hardware in the barn.

First, as can be seen in the pictures, I followed the suggestions covered in the post above and just used off-the-shelf parts to take the conduit around the corner post. They aren't as neat as custom bent conduit, but they work. I also used "T" and "L" pieces to bring the wire down the wall. I think it looks neat and the outlets spread around the barn and on the center bay posts are handy.

I still need to add outside lighting and will be using X-10 protocol hardware for part of that. I also have a remotely switched outlet so I can plug in my block heater and turn it on/off from the house.

I've been using home automation hardware/software since we got the place 25 years ago. At that time the house had electric baseboard heat and we were only here on the weekends. My wife would be cooking in her coat when we came over Friday evenings during that first winter. I was a systems analyst back then and so wanted to find a way to remotely control the heat and general security. When we remodeled in the 90s, I wired the house "for the future." When we built the detached garage (same time as the remodeling), it was equipped with lights that I can control from the house, along with outlets that allow me to start engine warmers or battery chargers.

When I started wiring the barn, I know I'd want some capabilities there too. The barn is 450' from the house. First, I wanted to be able to start the block heater on those cold mornings, so the tractor is ready to go when I get to the barn. Second, I wanted to be able to turn the outside lights on at the house, so I can see to get to the barn.

While I use Home Automation Systems - HomeSeer software to control HVAC, lights, water heater, water pump and whole house audio, you can do what I have done in the barn without a computer and for only a few dollars. All you need is an X-10 appliance module (Appliance Module (3-pin) Grounded - AM466) and a controller (Mini Controller (Black) - PHC01B). Plug the module into a standard outlet and your block heater into the module. Then from inside your nice warm house, push a button on the controller when you want to turn the heater on/off.

For the outside lights, I'm using a couple of these ::Motion Monitor!:: (note I got these on sale for less than half the price shown here). There are other options, but I like the motion sensor feature. You can turn this on/off remotely, using the same controller listed above.

Standard disclaimer here. I don't have any association with X-10 and lots of people in the home automation world will tell you that there are much better products out there. I also hate their Web site, but for under $30 (for the block heater control) you can't beat it.

Hope someone finds this useful.
 

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I agree X-10 web site is a "hard sell", but the prices can't be beat, and the products work. X10 was the first mainstream control protocol, and there are now 2 or 3 others competing with them, but when you price the gear, it's obvious which way to go and not break the bank,
 
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I agree X-10 web site is a "hard sell", but the prices can't be beat, and the products work. X10 was the first mainstream control protocol, and there are now 2 or 3 others competing with them, but when you price the gear, it's obvious which way to go and not break the bank,

I've been slowing switching to Z-wave for some things, but X-10 has worked well for me. Z-wave, without a lot of expense won't work at the distances I'm dealing with. And I've never had the signal issues others have had.

Anything that makes life easier, especially at a low cost seems like a good thing. Don't know how many automation guys/gals on this list, so thought I'd pass the information along as sort of a public service announcement.
 
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Conduit looks great. Out of the way and protected.

The only standard in home automation is there is no standard. It's nice to know that the X10 worked over 450' of AC wiring.

I did my new construction house with all wires and relays, no power line or wireless. That said, if I had to retro fit something it would be powerline or wireless. The stuff I'm playing with does X10, but I also have UPB available.

Pete
 
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Conduit looks great. Out of the way and protected.

The only standard in home automation is there is no standard. It's nice to know that the X10 worked over 450' of AC wiring.

I did my new construction house with all wires and relays, no power line or wireless. That said, if I had to retro fit something it would be powerline or wireless. The stuff I'm playing with does X10, but I also have UPB available.

Pete
Don't know if it is the remote location or what, but I've had good luck with X-10. Power comes into a 300 amp meter on the garage and there is a panel there, two in the house (plus the generator transfer panel) and now one at the barn. I have my drive alert and water pump control in an underground well house some 150' down the hill. The HomeSeer computer is in the basement. After 15 years, I started having switches die, so moved to Z-wave, but don't plan to replace all the X-10.

Back to the conduit, I am happy with the way it worked out.
 
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I use X10 quite a bit and have for the last 15 or so years. It is cheap and works. You have to watch those appliance modules as they are easily overloaded. For our pool pump, I use one of their heavy duty 20A outlets. Works fine. Where X10 is really useful is holiday lighting. :thumbsup:
 
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I use X10 quite a bit and have for the last 15 or so years. It is cheap and works. You have to watch those appliance modules as they are easily overloaded. For our pool pump, I use one of their heavy duty 20A outlets. Works fine. Where X10 is really useful is holiday lighting. :thumbsup:

I can't imagine not using X-10 to control holiday lighting, both indoors and out. As I stated earlier, I got in to home automation to make life easier. I'm surprised that there isn't a more general acceptance of HA. Still pretty much a hobbyist deal.

Simply being able to remotely control lights and switches around the farm seems like a good idea.
 
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Conduit looks great! You did a nice job, Barry.:thumbsup:

I'll have to check out those links, didn't know anything about what's avail. 'till I read this thread. Sounds like things have really progressed as far as home-automation. Fascinating stuff! (Once again, the wisdom and wealth of information of TBN members rears it's glorious head!:D)
 
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Conduit looks great! You did a nice job, Barry.:thumbsup:

I'll have to check out those links, didn't know anything about what's avail. 'till I read this thread. Sounds like things have really progressed as far as home-automation. Fascinating stuff! (Once again, the wisdom and wealth of information of TBN members rears it's glorious head!:D)
Thanks! I did this post because I always try to follow-up when I ask for advice or have a project. As you can see, I'm slow and this project started almost a year ago.

I've also gotten so much good advice and so many ideas, I just wanted to throw the simple barn automation out there as a small offering.
 

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