Backhoe backhoe maneuver
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rbargeron,
This has been posted on TBN before. Although it looks like one of those stupid pet tricks, if you look closely at the tractor you will see it is specially set-up for this "stunt". There are two steel beams, one under the bucket and one just behind the front tires, that run cross-wise to the tractor. Vertical plates at the end of the beams ride on the outside of the rail car while the beams support the tractor on the side walls of the car. The backhoe outrigger legs also have large pads for extra stability.
It is still crazy to do but not as crazy as the Navy safety slides imply.
Jeff
This has been posted on TBN before. Although it looks like one of those stupid pet tricks, if you look closely at the tractor you will see it is specially set-up for this "stunt". There are two steel beams, one under the bucket and one just behind the front tires, that run cross-wise to the tractor. Vertical plates at the end of the beams ride on the outside of the rail car while the beams support the tractor on the side walls of the car. The backhoe outrigger legs also have large pads for extra stability.
It is still crazy to do but not as crazy as the Navy safety slides imply.
Jeff
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<font color="blue"> do you know if they tricked up the hydraulics? </font>
I doubt it. The full size backhoes, and probably many of the smaller ones as well, have no problem lifting the unit off the ground with the hoe and/or FEL. JCB has a traveling team called the Dancing Diggers that puts on a show at fairs and tractor events using a standard backhoe. See attached.
I doubt it. The full size backhoes, and probably many of the smaller ones as well, have no problem lifting the unit off the ground with the hoe and/or FEL. JCB has a traveling team called the Dancing Diggers that puts on a show at fairs and tractor events using a standard backhoe. See attached.
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Ive been an operator since i was 14 and its entirely safe as long as you know your machines limits and arent easy panicked. That Cat backhoe has a large rear agregate bucket for unloading cars. My older brother has don that with a standard 455 Ford hoe on a smaller gondola car when we had out railroad contracts. One fella ive learned alot from is Vance Creddille, Ive seen him take a 555 Ford and go stright ip a 12 foot bank that was nearly a straight drop off with the backhoe pushing.
Im trying to find the link of the 3 Cat hoes digging out the balast and crushed aggregate out of the cars and loading the trucks. It shows them slide to another car. It mentions how many thousand dollars it saves a day to use standard hoes rather than to off load the hopper cars onto conveyors and then rehandle with a loader. Its not nearly as dangerous as it looks for a skilled operator. I forgot how big those buckets were capacity wise. When my brother did the rail road wash outs wed meet the train at the closest crossin and hed load the back hoe o nthe top of the Gondola and the train was pushing the cars. Wed reballast the tracks and the raril road would have a gradall there to help us place te rock. Since it uses a tele boom for crowding it cant reach into the gondola.
I think the Navy site was a bit unfair in the judging of an operator.
Im trying to find the link of the 3 Cat hoes digging out the balast and crushed aggregate out of the cars and loading the trucks. It shows them slide to another car. It mentions how many thousand dollars it saves a day to use standard hoes rather than to off load the hopper cars onto conveyors and then rehandle with a loader. Its not nearly as dangerous as it looks for a skilled operator. I forgot how big those buckets were capacity wise. When my brother did the rail road wash outs wed meet the train at the closest crossin and hed load the back hoe o nthe top of the Gondola and the train was pushing the cars. Wed reballast the tracks and the raril road would have a gradall there to help us place te rock. Since it uses a tele boom for crowding it cant reach into the gondola.
I think the Navy site was a bit unfair in the judging of an operator.
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Yeh, I remember from earlier threads that this was SOP at lots of rail yards.(or wherever they unload)
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Taylor, I'd guess the reason the slide show is so harsh is the Navy doesn't want troops trying the same manuver. When one has several thousand people to train, one has to train to the lowest level of skill. They figure just like the company I work at that everyone will not have the same level of common sense. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
For example, everyone in my department seems to think their a good lift driver, but they aren't all correct. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
And no I'm not one of the good ones either....
For example, everyone in my department seems to think their a good lift driver, but they aren't all correct. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
And no I'm not one of the good ones either....
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Scott I see your point, I had to Fetch a nice 300 Komatsu hoe WHen i worked at Huffman when the crane operator that had 50 hours of hoe experience went out where we backfilled 25 feet into the Tennessee river. Took me 12 logs a TD15 Dresser, and a 66E Komatsu loader and every clevis and cable on the job to get loose. Itold the fella if you can count the hours youve spent on a hoe you aren swamp ready.
Id get up tight when brother would mount the Gondola cars and no side legs to hold him. Usually at night or still dark. an usually miles from anywhere.
Dont mention lift trucks lol i spent the day gettin that little hard tired POS i use in the shop out of the gravel parkling lot. It does good with weight on it to hold the tires down I got it down in the yard with a new Cat engine block.
Id get up tight when brother would mount the Gondola cars and no side legs to hold him. Usually at night or still dark. an usually miles from anywhere.
Dont mention lift trucks lol i spent the day gettin that little hard tired POS i use in the shop out of the gravel parkling lot. It does good with weight on it to hold the tires down I got it down in the yard with a new Cat engine block.
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One of the genius's at work today was moving a pallet of blow-in insulation. Ran over a block of wood and dumped 42 bags all over the yard. None busted but it still took 10-15 minutes to restack it. I didn't let him drive the rest of the day. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif