Backhoe Backhoe for B2400?

[Anonymous Poster]

I'm looking for some advice on backhoes for a B2400. I've looked at the woods 6500 and the Kubota 4672. It seems that the woods requires an additional sub-frame where the Kubota does not.

Any experience with either of these and the trade-offs of sub-frames or no sub-frame?

 

[MChalkley]

I'm not familiar with the smaller backhoes (I have a Bradco 609 for my L4310HST) but, as a general rule of thumb, I would never use a backhoe that doesn't require a subframe, or at the very least, I would use it very very gingerly to prevent damage to the tractor. I've seen tractors broken in half from this kind of abuse. I suppose it could be okay to use a 3-point backhoe under certain circumstances and if the backhoe was weak enough, but in my opinion, you're getting pretty close to shoveling it by hand. I'm being somewhat flippant in that last comment, of course, but I'm serious about being very very careful with a backhoe that doesn't have a good subframe.

Mark "SPCT" /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Chalkley

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I believe Mark is right in encouraging a subframe mounted backhoe.I researched this topic at length before ordering a woods 7500 and experienced users (including "Tractorman" who sells both the kubota and woods products)recommend a subframe mounted hoe for the strength/safety.The only drawback I could see with this mount was that the subframe interfered with a belly mower.For me,the extra safety and stress reduction to the tractor was well worth this trade off.If you are interested in a woods give Tractorman a call/e-mail-his prices are very fair and he can ship to you.Sorry i dont have his address/# but you can probably find it here in this forum with a little searching. Good luck,Dan.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I can not believe that Kubota would design a hoe for the B2400 that would break it in half or otherwise damage the tractor if used properly.

Part of the installation of the 4672 is a subframe mounted on the tractor that stays attached to the tractor even when the hoe is removed. This would increase the strength of the tractor frame without the hoe attached. There are 2 versions of this subframe, one is compatable with a belly mower. There is also a much stronger top link bracket that beefs up that area as well, including when the hoe is removed.

I also have a B2400 and compared the Kubota 4672 to the Woods 6500 and concluded that the Kubota hoe was the better one.

Both hoes attach to the B2400 on the lower 3 point pins. The Woods subframe attaches on the pins but requires removal of the lower arms first. The Woods subframe still has the force of the hoe come through these 3 point pins.

Some of the differences between the 4672 and the 6500 are:

The Woods subframe stays attached to the hoe and will require more floor area to store.

The Kubota 4672 has 13% more bucket digging force and 36% more dipper stick digging force than the 6500! (4672 has same digging force as the 4690)

The Woods 6500 does not have replaceable bushings (the 7500 does have replaceable bushings but should not be used on the B2400).

The 4672 has more reach, higher loading hight and costs the same as the 6500.

The Kubota hoe is the same brand as the tractor and may be more desirable at resale time.

Hope this helps,

Andy