Backhoe B26 TLB switching from Cat to Deer controls (ISO to SAE)

   / B26 TLB switching from Cat to Deer controls (ISO to SAE) #1  

CrossCreek

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Fredericton, NB
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Kubota B26 TLB
I have been lurking for some time and found this site and members to be very helpful to say the least. Through your indirect advice, I purchased a non rental 2011 Kubota B26 TLB (149 hrs) with hydraulic thumb, front and rear remotes, QA rear (12&18) and 3PH. I could have purchased a new B2920 and BH for less but you guys advised me different for my intended use. So here is a big THANKS! for ending my pain as the search is over.

Normally these come set up with Deere (SAE or Backhoe) controls but the guy I purchased it from had it set up to CAT controls since he was use to that. I have not run a machine for maybe 15 years or more and it does not seem intuitive to me. I am sure I could easily train myself to use the current configuration but I do have a few questions and need some advice. I do not really want to start using the CAT controls for a month and then change for whatever reason.

So here are my questions:

1. Is there any drawback to not having the standard SAE controls on this machine?

2. I know i can simply swap the 4 appropriate hydraulic lines and it will change it back. However, I was told by the former owner that I could possibly bend the dipper stick cylinder (and weaken the boom) since there is a different pressure going to each via a different PRV (or maybe he said restrictor) setting etc. That I would have to change to spool valve etc to do it properly. I had seen in one post where someone paid $1000 to have this changed (likely rearranged everything) and then another member simply swapped those hoses multiple time (thought 1K switch member got hosed) with no apparent issue. Really, for practical purposes both could be right.

So in number 2. I am starting to wonder if everything has to be changed OR can I simply swap the lines. Really, If the dipper stick is 5% more powerful and the boom is 5% weaker no big deal and that would not likely be noticeable by me or anyone else. If that is the case, then technically speaking, I should change everything but really do not have too. Well if it is a 20% difference then maybe I should. I would like to make and informed decision so please...I need the collective to offer some sage advice before I try to grow it.

3. Are one style of controls superior to the other in terms of workflow?


i purchased the B26 to further develop my already functionally developed recreation property. I need to clear some land, say a couple of acres, maintain an 1100 foot driveway, develop some trails and possible erosion control with 1500 feet of river front. I would also like to plant a small garden in time and dig out for a root cellar. Oh..and have lots of fun too!

Thanks so much!


Ron
 
   / B26 TLB switching from Cat to Deer controls (ISO to SAE) #2  
We switch them on large excavators with no difference in operation . Some have a valve installed to make it easy .There is no advantage with either pattern , just your own peace of mind .
 
   / B26 TLB switching from Cat to Deer controls (ISO to SAE) #3  
Hi CrossCreek

I have owned a B21, B26 and now an L45 and I am a JD controls guy but my buddy with an excavation business is a Cat controls guy. When he needs a smaller machine he borrows mine and I just switch the appropriate hoses. I have done this multiple times on all of these models and never had a problem nor have we noticed and performance issues.

I can't see you having any problems just switching the lines back to the factory postions. I don't believe that any pressure adjustments were made when the original owner of your machine swapped the hoses.

The B26 is a great machine and I loved mine but I needed to be able to lift 2,000 pounds and reach 10' with the hoe so I reluctantly sold it and traded up to the L45. I put 300 hours on my B26 and never had any problems and it is a huge improvement over the B21.

All the best with your new tool!

Regards,

Lauren
 
   / B26 TLB switching from Cat to Deer controls (ISO to SAE)
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Thanks for the response guys, I really appreciate it. I just wanted some piece of mind and now I have it.

I am sure I will have plenty of fun with the B26. I say buy once and cry once and know that the tears are all gone I plan on using that thing as much as I can. I first need to buy a trailer to lug it to my property so I am looking for a used 16-18 foot 7K trailer. I have a 2009 GMC 1500 SLT so I hear a longer one will be better and maybe necessary for load balance.

I looked at an L45 too but it was out of my comfort zone in terms of price not to mention my truck would not haul it. When I was truck shopping I wanted to by a 2500 series and the salesman talked me out of it saying unless I had a real reason (i.e to lug a huge boat or something) to buy it then I should stick with the 1500. I only use my truck like 5000 miles/year so it was not like gas consumption would have mattered. I should have followed my gut but alas I did not.
 
   / B26 TLB switching from Cat to Deer controls (ISO to SAE) #5  
I just got a B26 last fall after selling my L4350. I noticed right away the front track was very narrow. I converted some 12x8.5 rims to the Kubota bolt pattern and accomplished 2 things at once. It gave me a wider tire 23 x 10.50 x 12 (6ply AG tread) option and increased the front track width by 2" overall. The new tire is only 2% larger in diameter so it will not affect the 4x4 ratio. The stability was immediately noticeable. DSCF1752.jpgDSCF1753.jpg
 

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