Dealer Are there any Jinma/Kama dealers in South Carolina

[zogman]

I really want to look at the machines and get an understanding of what I'm buying. I like the Kama's but I'm thinking the Jinmas might be the smarter choice due to sheer import numbers and parts availablity. 10 years down the road will Kama be the Betamax of Chinese tractors???

Any info would be appreciated. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[bluechip]

Some may recall that Beta was (is) a superior format to VHS, but sony tried to monopolize it. Some of the competitive advantages that KAMA currently enjoys is the availability of an 8x8 shuttle shift on the TS series, 4 cylinder EPA engine in the 35HP at a very competitive price, comonallity of chassis between TS254 and TS354 series (the KAMA is a HD 25HP tractor). Of course the TS254C engine and TS354X engines are the same EPA engines Jinma is using. On the larger tractors I think the population of 45HP and 50HP KAMAs is likely larger than Jinma, they have been brought in to US longer, so it will be more commercially feasable to import and stock parts for these models than some other brands.

Remember, the EPA restrictions that will prevent future imprting of the big KAMAs applies to Jinma and all the others for that matter. in 2006 all non road diesel engines 25HP and over MUST be EPA compliant, the TPEM that legally allows the import of these tractors expires. Of course both Jinma and KAMA will be able to supply parts after this date and dealers will be able to get them shipped with their EPA legal tractors in the future. It is very true that the JInma 200 and even 300 series tractors are very popular, sold by lots of dealers, but many of these dealers do not stock parts. It costs a LOT of money to stock these parts and you can only due it if you have a market to sell them in. The KAMA market in the US is now large enought to commercially justify the inventory of parts, not only for 25 and 35HP tractors but 45 and 50/55hp tractors as well. And KAMA is not a monoploy in the US, there are several importers, all of which can and many do, get parts with their tractor shipments...

We are looking for continued success with KAMA well into the future...Hope this helps.

 

[zogman]

Thanks for the post Chip,
I definitely want a 45-50 hp tractor but the lack of an EPA engine in the Kama tells me that in 2006 my 2005 Kama would be discontinued and make parts even more scarce. Do you know what Jinmas EPA situation is with the bigger tractors, do you sell those too?

I will buy a tractor soon, it's just a matter of what kind and where! I don't want to drive 14 hrs to Arkansas but after all the great replies and positive feedback from Chip's customers I will do it if I go Kama.

I still want to look at one in state before I make the 14hr trip!

 

[bluechip]

According to the factories I have contacted in China, the ONLY EPA certified engines available now are 25HP Y385 from Yangdong, 35HP 485 from Yangdong and TY395 from Jaingsu Jaingdong. That is it.

Keep in mind that although the tractors are not being imported, they are still being made for other markets (at least in KAMAs case, where they are currently developing a big market in Africa). So parts will be availalbe to be imported and can be shipped alongside the EPA approved tractrors in future container loads, or by them selves if needed urgently and not in stock at your US dealer. My point was that I believe there are more Kamas 45HP and up than Jinmas in the USA so it is more economically feasable for a business to stock KAMA parts here. Of course I could be wrong, I thought I was wrong once before, but it turned out I was mistaken... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Paddy]

Kama is big in China. This is not the case with others. Even if Kama has a set back going EPA in the US, they won't disappear on the world market. They will have the strength/time to go EPA.

You might post to visit the nearest KAMA in SC to see/hear and get a bit of seat time. In 1 hr you will be ordering your KAMA!

I called Chip and talked with him on several occasions before making the big choice. When it arrived 'site unseen', it was exactly as discussed.

Anyone who is wanting to grade my drive, I mean come look at my KAMA 454 in Southern Indiana, PM me.

Patrick

 

[gunslinger101]

Zogman:
If there is anyone I trust to buy a tractor from sight unseen would be from Chip. If he says its black and white its black and white. I have talked to many people who have purchased from Chip and they all have nothing but good to say about him. I understand you would want to see a tractor to get an idea of what its like up close, but if he says the parts will be there and it s a good tractor, I think you could take that to the bank, he is not a used car salesman.

 

[zogman]

I still haven't found or even heard a whisper of a Kama dealer/ reseller in SC or NC. The closest I can find is Chip and that's 14 hours away! I need to start selling these things here, I would have the market cornered! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[bluechip]

Well...I can ship you one or a truckload /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Scozz]

Zogman, I drove 22 hrs from NY to pick up my 454 from Chip.
Was a **** of a ride (did it straignt thru there and back alone) but well worth it. My KAMA out-performes my expectations daily (I've had no real issues in 105 hours of use) and knowing Chip is there for support it makes it that much more comforting ... Scozz

 

[billbill1]

I'd go with Chip too, if I win the lottery (sorry Chip, I don't buy lotto tickets) I'm gonna buy one of everything he has for sale. He really supports the tractor forum and although we've never met, I consider him a friend. Always responds to questions and just an all around good guy. I didn't know of him when I bought my tractor and that is truly my loss.